I had the itch to play a Paradox game, prior to likely picking up Vicky III over the Winter Sale. So, it was time to play EU4 with all expansions (after the bundle discount a month or so ago), with the 1.37 patch, and my manpower-decreasing, rebel-increasing, and tech-cost-increasing mod in effect.
The theme of the campaign has been an Ottoman/Palaiologos alliance. No, we didn't say, "let's let Constantinople stay Byzantine forever" (although in my last game I left it for over a hundred years), we found another way to make use of the Palaiologos dynasty for Ottoman goals.
The Ottomans have a bunch of new events since I last played them pre-Domination. And you know what? The new events make things harder. The Janissaries are less content, and so are the brothers of the Vali Sultan (heir to the throne). Add in that I made revolts a bit more likely in general - meaning that you actually see events where estates take over countries, as well as just generally somewhat higher revolt levels - and it's been enough to slow down my expansion.
But not to stop it altogether. There were two priorities - securing many of the Turkish beyliks before the Mamluks could, and conquering Constantinople. The Mamluks got Ramazan, but I would get the other three. A good outcome for both; they were able to focus on Arabia.
Meanwhile, Constantinople fell a few years ahead of the historical date. Much like in history, we allowed the Despot of Morea to continue ruling as a vassal of us in southern Greece. But in-game, Morea coalesced around the pro-Ottoman Demetrios Palaiologos, and the Sultan allowed him to rule the mainland part of Epirus when it was conquered. This led to the suggestion from the Despot that perhaps someday the southern Italian lands that were once Byzantine could be restored to his rule as well, all as a vassal of the Sultan, of course.
A month or so later, news arrived that Aragon had renounced control of Naples, setting it free. All of a sudden, the Despot's idea seemed less like a Byzantophile's dream and more like a real opportunity. The strategic ambiguity around whether the Roman Empire still existed in Morea or had been vanquished was quickly discarded, with a system similar to the tetrarchy's augustus/caesar system publicized. Demetrious Palaiologos was a Caesar, subordinate to the Sultan, but de jure still an emperor. A few rounds of diplomacy later, it was announced that the Empire was back to restore the Roman claims to southern Italy.
Needless to say, this led to panic and confusion throughout Christendom. But the Sultan had secured a key ally - Genoa. With a promise to respect Genoa's Aegean and Baltic possessions for at least fifty years, as well as to not interfere with any Genoese developments north of Rome and to work together against Venice, the Genoese were convinced to become the Sultan's new best friends. Thus they helped return the Palaiologos dynasty to Italy.
Things would come to a head a few years later, when another war broke out with Venice, Milan, Albania, and the Pope on one side, and Genoa, the Ottomans, and Provence on the other. The Venetian side would do better on land, but the Genoese side would prove superior on the seas, and in the end the Ottomans gained a small bit of Albanian land and the security needed to reinforce the new Roman province of Magna Graecia over the long term.
1456, prior to the larger war where I retook one province from Albania. "Morean Italy" is the newly-Roman part of the boot.
The Sultan suspects this Italian expedition isn't exactly what the Greeks were dreaming of when they talked of a restoration of the Roman Empire, but it's a vision he hopes to continue pursuing when the opportunity is right.
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The theme of the campaign has been an Ottoman/Palaiologos alliance. No, we didn't say, "let's let Constantinople stay Byzantine forever" (although in my last game I left it for over a hundred years), we found another way to make use of the Palaiologos dynasty for Ottoman goals.
The Ottomans have a bunch of new events since I last played them pre-Domination. And you know what? The new events make things harder. The Janissaries are less content, and so are the brothers of the Vali Sultan (heir to the throne). Add in that I made revolts a bit more likely in general - meaning that you actually see events where estates take over countries, as well as just generally somewhat higher revolt levels - and it's been enough to slow down my expansion.
But not to stop it altogether. There were two priorities - securing many of the Turkish beyliks before the Mamluks could, and conquering Constantinople. The Mamluks got Ramazan, but I would get the other three. A good outcome for both; they were able to focus on Arabia.
Meanwhile, Constantinople fell a few years ahead of the historical date. Much like in history, we allowed the Despot of Morea to continue ruling as a vassal of us in southern Greece. But in-game, Morea coalesced around the pro-Ottoman Demetrios Palaiologos, and the Sultan allowed him to rule the mainland part of Epirus when it was conquered. This led to the suggestion from the Despot that perhaps someday the southern Italian lands that were once Byzantine could be restored to his rule as well, all as a vassal of the Sultan, of course.
A month or so later, news arrived that Aragon had renounced control of Naples, setting it free. All of a sudden, the Despot's idea seemed less like a Byzantophile's dream and more like a real opportunity. The strategic ambiguity around whether the Roman Empire still existed in Morea or had been vanquished was quickly discarded, with a system similar to the tetrarchy's augustus/caesar system publicized. Demetrious Palaiologos was a Caesar, subordinate to the Sultan, but de jure still an emperor. A few rounds of diplomacy later, it was announced that the Empire was back to restore the Roman claims to southern Italy.
Needless to say, this led to panic and confusion throughout Christendom. But the Sultan had secured a key ally - Genoa. With a promise to respect Genoa's Aegean and Baltic possessions for at least fifty years, as well as to not interfere with any Genoese developments north of Rome and to work together against Venice, the Genoese were convinced to become the Sultan's new best friends. Thus they helped return the Palaiologos dynasty to Italy.
Things would come to a head a few years later, when another war broke out with Venice, Milan, Albania, and the Pope on one side, and Genoa, the Ottomans, and Provence on the other. The Venetian side would do better on land, but the Genoese side would prove superior on the seas, and in the end the Ottomans gained a small bit of Albanian land and the security needed to reinforce the new Roman province of Magna Graecia over the long term.
1456, prior to the larger war where I retook one province from Albania. "Morean Italy" is the newly-Roman part of the boot.
The Sultan suspects this Italian expedition isn't exactly what the Greeks were dreaming of when they talked of a restoration of the Roman Empire, but it's a vision he hopes to continue pursuing when the opportunity is right.
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Spoiler 1476 World Status :
Now it's 1476, twenty years after the re-integration of southern Italy, and by and large Italy has come to terms with this odd state of affairs. Aragon panicked, re-conquered the remainder of Naples, and allied Austria, and we moved to subdue Vlad the Impaler before the Hungarians moved to do the same; they would reply by conquering Herzegovina. But our presence in Italy has been stable, and the revolts against the "Ottoman" rule are finally subsiding.
Genoa, meanwhile, has seen Ottoman troops crush a revolt on Lesbos and then retreat to allow restored Italian rule, and seen the Sultanate decline to intervene in the Crimean succession crisis, in which the Crimean Khan promised the Ottomans the wealthy Genoese ports as payment for aid. Cynics still believe that someday the Turks will want full direct control of the Aegean and Black Seas, but so far, the trust that Genoa placed in the Sultan's words has not been misplaced.
To the east, there is a stalemate between myself, the Mamluks, and Qara Qoyunlu (who guarantees Aq Qoyunlu against both of the rest of us, and is allied with myself against the Mamluks, who are the strongest of the three), and farther east, the Timurids are imploding. To the north, Muscovy's usual expansionist tendencies were somehow checked, as Novgorod survived long enough to secure an alliance with Hungary. Muscovy finally made a move against Odoyev, but Lithuania defended them decently well. Sultan Selim spend a year in Vilnius trading around for maps of the world, and just as Lithuania was about to bow out, offered Odoyev an alliance. The end result? Muscovy loses 40,000 men, noticeably more than their foes, and spends a fortune on mercenaries to take one province from Lithuania, and Odoyev remains independent. Meanwhile, Kazan expands against the Horde, giving them at least a chance of being ready when the time comes. Novgorod could probably go on the march and win if they wanted to. From an Ottoman standpoint, a very good outcome.
To the West, Castile has been a revolving door of crises, rebellions, and bankruptcies. Aragon took advantage of this to change the borders (while the Byzantines were being restored to southern Italy), and at one point it got so bad that Granada decided it could solo both Castile and Portugal - and almost won. Instead they were forced to make a white peace, after the Ottomans calculated that it was not worth the risk to the Imperial Navy to try to land troops in Iberia, and kept the policy at only guaranteeing Granada's independence. But still, the Reconquista has been effectively stopped, and by Castilians at that.
Far to the east, we hear rumors of another great Horde forming, and having already made inroads into Cathay. Will it come crashing into Anatolia like Timur's horde before it?
Genoa, meanwhile, has seen Ottoman troops crush a revolt on Lesbos and then retreat to allow restored Italian rule, and seen the Sultanate decline to intervene in the Crimean succession crisis, in which the Crimean Khan promised the Ottomans the wealthy Genoese ports as payment for aid. Cynics still believe that someday the Turks will want full direct control of the Aegean and Black Seas, but so far, the trust that Genoa placed in the Sultan's words has not been misplaced.
To the east, there is a stalemate between myself, the Mamluks, and Qara Qoyunlu (who guarantees Aq Qoyunlu against both of the rest of us, and is allied with myself against the Mamluks, who are the strongest of the three), and farther east, the Timurids are imploding. To the north, Muscovy's usual expansionist tendencies were somehow checked, as Novgorod survived long enough to secure an alliance with Hungary. Muscovy finally made a move against Odoyev, but Lithuania defended them decently well. Sultan Selim spend a year in Vilnius trading around for maps of the world, and just as Lithuania was about to bow out, offered Odoyev an alliance. The end result? Muscovy loses 40,000 men, noticeably more than their foes, and spends a fortune on mercenaries to take one province from Lithuania, and Odoyev remains independent. Meanwhile, Kazan expands against the Horde, giving them at least a chance of being ready when the time comes. Novgorod could probably go on the march and win if they wanted to. From an Ottoman standpoint, a very good outcome.
To the West, Castile has been a revolving door of crises, rebellions, and bankruptcies. Aragon took advantage of this to change the borders (while the Byzantines were being restored to southern Italy), and at one point it got so bad that Granada decided it could solo both Castile and Portugal - and almost won. Instead they were forced to make a white peace, after the Ottomans calculated that it was not worth the risk to the Imperial Navy to try to land troops in Iberia, and kept the policy at only guaranteeing Granada's independence. But still, the Reconquista has been effectively stopped, and by Castilians at that.
Far to the east, we hear rumors of another great Horde forming, and having already made inroads into Cathay. Will it come crashing into Anatolia like Timur's horde before it?