What video games have you been playing? ΚΔ (24)? More like ΚΔ,Ζ,ΤΞΕ!

[Arakhor]

I mostly played it as a RPG-lite game, but then I'm not good at the mass battles or the sieges etc.

 

[Kyriakos]

If you want pure strategy, a new version of civ3 (ala free-civ) is being worked on. Which includes my superior gfx
Hopefully it will offer added options and some improvements - like animated terrain.

 

[Synobun]

So you all consider it a strategy game, not an action game ?

Reviews I read seem to suggest the campaign/RPG part was flawed but the battles alone are worth the price...

My experience is with Warband, so it's possible Bannerlord fixed it, but even with mouse and keyboard the angles and controls were janky. Trying to do it with two joysticks seems like a nightmare. But I guess Arakhor could say more about that.

 

[Arakhor]

I found controlling the overland map to be pretty easy, and tournaments were mostly just point and swing, but I never got even remotely good enough at the mass battles to know if I was being impeded by the Xbox controller or not.

 

[Snowygerry]

After a while I managed to hit the targets and defeat the trainers, it is not totally uncontrollable far from it, but it's not GTA, I'll probably focus on sword + shield + crossbow, the ideal weapon for the untrained warrior.

Start a company and get my training on the road, tnx for the tips

 

[Voidwalkin]

So I got Bannerlord for PS4, only just started and it is all a bit overwhelming at first I must say, I spent an hour or two practicing with various weapons and a horse at the range, a lot of that time I was hitting nothing but air and bumping into scenery, clearly this will take some practice

Any players here with useful tips before I really start the game ?

I saw there is a PS version of The Long Dark, that seems to be a CFC favorite, might try that later....

Fighting is a skill quickly built. Use a sword and board or lance and board from horseback. The shield is essential for the unskilled, really helps simplify blocking.

Beyond that, the challenge is money, early game. A brief guide to very early money making.

In the first 5 or so in-game days, trade goods are out of wack. Only locally produced goods are available and the demand skyrockets. You can meet this demand if you move fast. Buy furs in Bog Beth or Geunat Nal in Battania(green), near Car Banseth, and sell them in Aserai, the far southern desert. 5x turnaround.

I then go back to Battania and recruit noble youth, only available in villages bound to castles(mouse over it to check). This is important because they upgrade to extremely strong long-bow armed, two hand sword wielding death machines, and critically for the early game, don't require warhorses(greatest expense) to upgrade, really drastically reducing the cash needed to assemble 20-odd ass kickers.

Once you have assembled this force, attack sea raiders and mountain bandits. Sell all the loot except the javelins. These you keep. Buy javelins with the loot.

You smelt them at the smithy until you learn to make harpoons, then you craft harpoons en masse, until you unlock the full javelin tree. Then you make jareeds, a very expensive javelin, the lasf unlock. For the required materials, buy and sell pugios, a very cheap dagger available in Imperial towns. Even defective, the jareeds you'll make sell for about 5000 a piece, 15000 if not cracked or bent, and pugios cost 250 per, an ROI of somewhere between 10x and 25x.

You then mass produce these. Hire companions with smithing skills, clicking the character icon in the bottom left of the menu to swap them in when your forgemaster gets tired.

Using this method, you can pretty easily generate enough money to buy top tier armor, fund a top tier warband, and basically break the game's economy by around level 8. Takes 1-2 hours.

 

[H4run]

After a while I managed to hit the targets and defeat the trainers, it is not totally uncontrollable far from it, but it's not GTA, I'll probably focus on sword + shield + crossbow, the ideal weapon for the untrained warrior.

Start a company and get my training on the road, tnx for the tips

Defeating the trainer is not supposed to be hours long struggle, this is Mount and Blade not Kingdom Come Deliverance, this happened simply because the game is not supposed to be play with controller, the fact that taleworlds sell their game to console players for me is almost a scam, and your problem will only get worse outside of the training camp.

You'll got flank by multiple enemies with armors, which you need to backpedal and block their blow while delivering counter, while at the same time you need to order your troops and carrying the chain of command, something that you can do in mouse and keyboard, but not with controller.

You can fix this problem with setting the option for auto-block, use mainly range weapon because that way you don't need to manipulate your movement or camera angle to adjust the direction of the blow in case of melee, and bows also throwing weapon is very much powerful, you can one shot your opponent with a throwing axe.

Bannerlord is an insanely great game with a deep flaw especially during endgame, and no mod can fix that flaw so far. It's a much more ambitious game than warband, too ambitious it's ending up with ocean wide possibility yet it's shallow as a puddle.

 

[Akka]

So you all consider it a strategy game, not an action game ?

Reviews I read seem to suggest the campaign/RPG part is flawed but the battles alone are worth the price...

It's a sandbox game. The fighting is a big part of it, but you can reasonably play it completely as a commander who doesn't use his weapons at all. Or a merchant who gain money and defend his belongings with his guards.
Though the meat of the game (that you can chose to not engage in, but which is the core on which the rest has been built) is the battles with hundred of men on each sides, and you giving orders to formations and fightings.

 

[Snowygerry]

Buy a second screen then !
But seriously, the game is just a barebone frame on which you put mods. And it's moddable to Hell and back. You're getting less than half of what you'd get on a PC for the same price.

The PS is the second screen, adding a gaming PC would be the 3rd screen

Also - I'm no longer the most important gamer in the household, and I do not want them to associate the PC with entertainment, PC = work or school, PS is play

 

[Snowygerry]

Defeating the trainer is not supposed to be hours long struggle, this is Mount and Blade not Kingdom Come Deliverance, this happened simply because the game is not supposed to be play with controller, the fact that taleworlds sell their game to console players for me is almost a scam, and your problem will only get worse outside of the training camp.

Could be, tbh the hardest part of tutorial was hitting the strung up jugs with a lance while on horseback, probably a matter of timing...

Looks interesting to :

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ordnael]

Currently playing Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition on the Nintendo Switch. This remaster sure plays better than the port I played on my 3DS! Visually it feels like I am playing one of the most recent entries in the Xenoblade franchise.

 

[H4run]

Could be, tbh the hardest part of tutorial was hitting the strung up jugs with a lance while on horseback, probably a matter of timing...

Looks interesting to :

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Playing jousting is nice too, you can one hit your enemy and it's not that hard to direct the lance, however it's a hit and run weapon, it's not as efficient when your enemy able to close the distance to you especially jousting lance is long and heavy.

If I were you, I will play with bow and arrow (for long-range), with two throwing axes that you can use as both melee and range. You can just sit nicely on your horse while shooting arrows and throwing axes while supervising your troops from a fair distant. That sounds perfect to me for console user. In big battle there are not much you can do as an individual, you mostly rely on how you organize your troops and formation.

You're in for a nice ride, enjoy it before it fades.

 

[Akka]

The PS is the second screen, adding a gaming PC would be the 3rd screen

Well, just do it

Also - I'm no longer the most important gamer in the household, and I do not want them to associate the PC with entertainment, PC = work or school, PS is play

Man, don't go down without a fight, you should still be the main gamer in your house !

 

[Voidwalkin]

I basically just make my own headcanon in Bannerlord. It helps me to RP it. I create a character and imagine his origins, culture and from there his goals.

One character may be totally inflexible about avoiding battle for fear of ridicule, standing put against hopeless odds, while another may be a smooth operator. I accept suboptimal results because they really make the flavor of the campaign. Long term enjoyment of any sandbox game kinda depends on that for me.

(said even though I provided the optimized min/max blueprint to rocketship a character outta the atmosphere in about an hour, I usually avoid it)

 

[Voidwalkin]

If I were you, I will play with bow and arrow (for long-range), with two throwing axes that you can use as both melee and range. You can just sit nicely on your horse while shooting arrows and throwing axes while supervising your troops from a fair distant. That sounds perfect to me for console user. In big battle there are not much you can do as an individual, you mostly rely on how you organize your troops and formation.

I think you can. You have to go on foot to devastate enemy lines rapidly, though. On horseback, there's too much time wasted riding back and forth, lower dmg per second. On foot, with a two handed axe, you can crush a line very quickly if you know how to play linebreaker on the side of the shieldwall and have high athletics and melee skills. Almost immediate strike after strike, much less wasted motion, much more impact, higher than even horse archery.

I played Bannerlord on console for years, and routinely topped 100 kills in engagements of around 400 vs 400 while not forfeiting party efficiency.

It helps if you plan perks out to get 7 vigor. My character had 7 vigor, 7 end, 300 in all melee skills, and 10 INT with about 330 medical. A party where the average soldier has all the combat buffs has troops that do about +50% dmg, +15 to all equipped pieces of armor, about + 80, 90 HP, while I cleaved through entire lines with a 2 handed axe. Terrifyingly effective.

I actually got less kills per battle late game, because my infantry just bulldozed all opposition, regardless of quality, in 2 seconds.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Man, don't go down without a fight, you should still be the main gamer in your house !

I used to play Starcraft (SC2) multiplayer with my sons and it was alot of fun, but they don't ask to play with me anymore.

I think there are three main factors aside from the obvious (Fortnite/Minecraft/cellphone/age), specifically related to the game itself that have dwindled their interest in playing SC2 with me.

1. SC2 has ridiculous update/loading times unless you are playing it regularly/everyday. If you haven't played in a couple weeks or a month or longer, you can't even play without it doing a multi-hour patch/update. That makes it pertty inaccesible to casual players.

2. My sons used to play the Campaign(s) and also play together to do the co-op missions... now that they've completed most, or all of the campaign missions they don't find the game as interesting.

3. When we all played together, we always used to play multiplayer versus mode. However, if we played one v. one, or three person melee, I would always win. Whereas if we played two v. one, with my sons teaming up against me, they would always win. We never got past that level. I couldn't improve enough to challenge them in a 2 v. 1, and they couldn't improve enough to be competitive against me in a 1 v. 1. So there was a lack of a real challenge either way.

Oh well... guess I need to learn how to play Fortnite

 

[Kaitzilla]

Here is a message apologizing for how Path of the Exile 1 has been handled while Path of the Exile 2 was released.

 

[Snowygerry]

I found controlling the overland map to be pretty easy, and tournaments were mostly just point and swing, but I never got even remotely good enough at the mass battles to know if I was being impeded by the Xbox controller or not.

Well after a few days I learned to raise my arm and shout "Engage !" that is enough to win against small bands of looters, it makes me feel like captian Picard too

With some upgrades my men seem reasonably able to operate independently and survive the battle, while I circle round on horseback and attack the enemy ranged troops.

I'm slowly building my wealth to 2000, that will probably open some more command options..


Bannerlords reminds a bit of the classic "Pirates !" game, with multitude of settlements to visit, the standard dialog options everywhere, and various factions fighting for control.

 

[Voidwalkin]

Well after a few days I learned to raise my arm and shout "Engage !" that is enough to win against small bands of looters, it makes me feel like captian Picard too

With some upgrades my men seem reasonably able to operate independently and survive the battle, while I circle round on horseback and attack the enemy ranged troops.

I'm slowly building my wealth to 2000, that will probably open some more command options..


Bannerlords reminds a bit of the classic "Pirates !" game, with multitude of settlements to visit, the standard dialog options everywhere, and various factions fighting for control.

Don't work without a contract! Look for three quests that are of note to someone playing this way.

1: "so and so needs help with bandits". 600 denars to hunt two bandit parties, which you're doing anyway.

2: "bandit base nearby". 3000 denars to bust up a revealed bandit hideout. It's easy enough, you defeat them in detail.

3: "so and so got captured by bounty hunters". 3000 denars, bust up a bandit hideout.

There is...an early game alternative to hunting bandits, btw. Attack villages, and loot the militia! They're pretty weak in combat and you can check their size to make sure you're not hopelessly outnumbered.

This will start a war with a faction, but at low party sizes, you should be able to outrun them with cavalry. Buy riding horses (steppe horses, midlands palfreys) to increase party speed for infantrymen(they'll use them when traveling, giving a party speed boost). When reach clan tier 1, join as a mercenary with any faction warring with the one you've chosen to raid, immediately leave it, and you're back to being at peace, baby.

A single slain militia party will provide about 2 to 3k in loot.

 

[Strong Reaction]

I can't imagine trying to play a Mount & Blade game with a controller.

I cant imagine playing without a keyboard and mouse, an associate of mine a console and we played CoD on it or Battlefield one of those game and I was totally lost. All I could do was move horizontally back and forth trying to line up shots because I did not have the finger dexterity to aim correctly. Mouse and keyboard is a bit like having a second set of hands for me.