What would Jesus cut, if he could run?

Mr. Dictator

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Interesting movement bubbling up lately, it seems. Is it right for a Christian politician to support cutting social programs that aid the poor, while allowing the military budget to avoid a lot of the brunt? What does the Christian Right think of the Christian Left? Personally, I know about as many Left wing Christians as Right Wing Christians, and they're all very agreeable people. Could this be a key moment in that group entering the national dialogue?

So, thoughts? Knee-jerk reactions? Thin worn discussion points?

Lets keep it civil, we're discussing Religion and Fiscal policy at the same time, but I have faith in all of you :p

Spoiler :
House Republicans announced a plan yesterday to cut $43 billion in domestic spending and international aid, while increasing spending for military and defense by another $8 billion. This proposal comes just months after billions of dollars were added to the deficit with an extension of tax cuts to the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans. House Republicans focused in on only 12 percent of federal spending, and targeted things like education, the environment, food safety, law enforcement, infrastructure, and transportation -- programs that benefit or protect most Americans. They also proposed cutting funding for programs that benefit the most vulnerable members of our society, such as nutrition programs for our poorest women and children. We don't yet know all the cuts Republicans are targeting in their proposals, but it's good to finally know what their priorities are.

Under the proposed budget cuts, deficit reduction will not come from the super-rich; it will come from the rest of us. And the poorer you are, the more vulnerable you become, and the more you will pay for the burdens of deficit reduction. For example, Women, Infants, and Children (WIC), a program that helps provide food to hungry mothers and their children faces a $758 million cut. Also, the proposed budget cuts $544 million in international food aid grants for organizations such as World Vision. AmeriCorps, a program that provides public service opportunities for our young adults, would be eliminated entirely. But our military and defense budget, which sends our young adults off to kill and be killed, would receive an $8 billion increase.

It used to be very popular for Christians to ask, "What Would Jesus Do?" They even wore bracelets with the initials "WWJD." The bracelets acted as reminders that as Christians, our actions should always reflect the values and example we see in the life of Jesus. Already, in a first wave of response to the proposed cuts, thousands of Christians told their members of Congress that they need to ask themselves, "What Would Jesus Cut?" They believe, and so do I, that the moral test of any society is how it treats its poorest and most vulnerable citizens. And that is exactly what the Bible says, over and over again.

I believe that vaccines that save children's lives; bed nets that protect them from malaria; and food that keeps their families from starving are more important to Jesus than tax cuts for the rich; bigger subsidies for corporations; and more weapons in a world already filled with conflict. I also believe that tested and effective domestic programs that clearly help to lift people out of poverty are more reflective of the compassion of Christ than tax and spending policies that make the super-rich even richer. And I don't believe, as the Republicans keep saying, that the best way to help everybody is to keep helping the super-rich. That's not smart economics and, as we say in the evangelical community, it's not biblical. So many of us in the faith community are ready to make a moral argument against the proposed budget cuts to our members of Congress, especially to those who claim to be people of faith.

Organizations like Bread for the World and Catholic Charities advocate for critical nutrition programs that keep hunger at bay for millions of American families. Groups such as Habitat for Humanity, the Salvation Army, and the Christian Community Development Association deliver crucial health and human services around the country that hold neighborhoods and cities together. Government aid to programs like these is money very well spent, and many would have to shut their doors without it. Government funding is critical to the work that faith-based organizations like World Vision and Catholic Relief Services do around the world to bring millions of children and families out of poverty, and public-private partnerships pioneered by foundations such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that are saving millions of lives.

In Great Britain, Prime Minister Cameron made the choice to delay a costly nuclear submarine program while also increasing funding for international aid. We can do the same. Look to leaders in the faith community to say that the choice to protect the rich instead of the poor in deficit reduction is an immoral one. Taking the cutting knife to programs that benefit low-income people, while refusing to scrutinize the much larger blank checks we keep giving to defense contractors and corporate executives, is hypocritical and cruel. I'll go even further and say that such a twisted moral calculus for the nation's fiscal policy is simply not fair, and not right. It is not only bad economics, but also bad religion. The priorities we are now seeing are not consistent with Christian, Jewish, or Muslim values. And if the super-rich and their representatives in Congress persist in this fight against the poor, they will be picking a fight with all of us.
 
I doubt it's a key moment...ring-wing Christians don't listen to left-wing Christians, and Vice Versa
 
I doubt it's a key moment...ring-wing Christians don't listen to left-wing Christians, and Vice Versa

True, but I get the impression that the left wing christians of this country don't really have a sense of unity, as there is no one really in Washington who's there ambassador, like the religious right has had.
 
No, Jesus would probably work on passing a law outlawing nails.
 
If, and I stress the IF most emphatically, the Constitution was okay with it, I would most likely support a Christian Democrat type platform as they tend to exist in Europe, I think. I am not opposed to social programs that are truly necessary, and support some of them at the State (as opposed to federal) level, where they are legal and don't violate the Constitution.

Jesus said render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Obey the law. The Constitution doesn't allow most of the social programs that exist at the federal level. They exist due to the weakness of our human legislators, presidents, and justices who don't care about the rule of law. I won't speak to what Jesus would or would not do as I do not feel it my place to speak for our King, but I just laid out some facts there. Take it for what you will.
 
He'd cut medicare and all medical programs. Who needs those when you can heal just by a touch or if you can just say the word and they would be healed.

Sucks for people who don't have faith in him though.
 
If, and I stress the IF most emphatically, the Constitution was okay with it, I would most likely support a Christian Democrat type platform as they tend to exist in Europe, I think. I am not opposed to social programs that are truly necessary, and support some of them at the State (as opposed to federal) level, where they are legal and don't violate the Constitution.

Jesus said render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Obey the law. The Constitution doesn't allow most of the social programs that exist at the federal level. They exist due to the weakness of our human legislators, presidents, and justices who don't care about the rule of law. I won't speak to what Jesus would or would not do as I do not feel it my place to speak for our King, but I just laid out some facts there. Take it for what you will.

Would you hypothetically support a law you knew to be morally correct even if unconstitutional?
 
His statement was deliberately ambiguous; after he spoke, it was unclear whether that meant those things belonged to Caesar or didn't.

No, he was asked specifically about taxes. He gave a clear answer that wasnt really ambiuous at all.

Come on. This isnt one of those biblical issues where its even questionable. He gets asked about taxes. Says who's picture is on the coin. Caesars. Render unto Caesar what is his. Pretty straight forward if you ask me.

He would cut lots of the US meat subsidies and the military, as far as I know.

Most likely he simply wouldnt be involved in politics at all.
 
No, he was asked specifically about taxes. He gave a clear answer that wasnt really ambiuous at all.

Come on. This isnt one of those biblical issues where its even questionable. He gets asked about taxes. Says who's picture is on the coin. Caesars. Render unto Caesar what is his. Pretty straight forward if you ask me.

So if taxes were 98% you'd pay them?
 
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