Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by CivDude86, Sep 19, 2006.
Since I don't have metal its not that. Is it a wooden sword covered in glue?
Very easy to answer. Since the Chariot is of egyptian origin the sword must be a papyrus-stick.
I think they are thai sticks myself
They only had spears until they killed all your axemen. Then they melted down all those axes and made swords.
Which proves they discovered Recycling before Bronze / Iron Working
Omg you guys are gonna implode the CivIV universe if you keep coming up with paradoxes and contradictions like that.
I'm sorry, but if you can make a chariot out of just wood, you rock. Peg-and-dowl construction along with thatching and weaving creating a war-machine...I gotta re-take my basket weaving class man!
Something does seem off there in the tech tree.
balance is more important than realism
at least that's what i think
I believe Assyrian chariots were wood, leather and reed armor. I think the paradox involves archery. Early chariots were archer platforms and too fragile to wade into combat with swords or spears. They were replaced with horsed archers after the development of saddle blankets.
Excellent points, but the Assyrians were also very familiar with iron working as they were the first to recognize its advantages over bronze.
By about 1,000 BC, their militia was fully equiped with many weapons made of iron, including chariots, shields and armor.
Their armies were primarilly composed of spearmen, but chariots were often used as the main invasion force to batter through enemy lines of infantry.
They are considered to be the very first pure military society in history.
Some more info that suggests metal was involved:
"The Egyptian chariot had a metal covering for the axles, which reduced friction, and this was certainly an improvement. Also, some wooden parts were strengthened by covering them with metal sleeves...."
Maybe the swords are made of flint or obsidian.
Was the development of horse archers connected with the discovery of the stirrup? I'm sure I remember something about that and the Mongols.
Yup. Most important invention, ever. The stirrup. Did more to change the face of the planet than any other invention, and heralded all the other inventions that people point to as more significant.
But, it is also true that when Horseback riding was "discovered", the Assyrians switched from pricipally using chariots to a form of Cavalry.
I believe this honor goes to the Hittites.
Also, don't forget that a resource 'deposit' simply represents an amount large enough to support an entire empire. Perhaps you have small quantities of iron, bronze and other metals, but not enough to make the real 'metal-dependant' units like Axemen, Spearmen and swordsmen!
this is the best guess....get them really high, then beat them up or trample with your horsies while they're munching out on their neolithic snacks.
They're made out of bone, like the big wacking-stick in space oddessy 2001.
The real question is where did my warriors get their bear-skins from before they've researched hunting?
from already dead bears of course !!!
There may be some evidence that may be the case, but current historic archealogists are stating otherwise. Most current sources of info point to the Assyrians.
If I could upload the book I have, I would. I am not claiming that I am 100 percent correct, only that there is mounting evidence from several sources that it was, in fact, the Assyrians.
Either way, there is absolute archealogioc evidence that chariots of that era used metal in their build.
The Parthians had horse archers long before the invention of the stirrup.
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