What's wrong with narcism?

The Last Conformist said:
@Hitro: I am no Christian, but I did give an answer to what's wrong with narcissism - viz. it's a personality disorder that gives you problems in daily life -; any comment?
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Ahm, no, not really.

I find the question about as rhetorical as the one it is copied from. ;)
 
Hitro said:
:lol:

Typo? Think about the thread title again...
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When I need an English teacher from a foreign country, I'll hire one, thanks.

You are the one looking egotistical here, with your flat refusal to admit you used the wrong word.

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CurtSibling said:
When I need an English teacher from a foreign country, I'll hire one, thanks.

You are the one looking egotistical here, with your flat refusal to admit you used the wrong word.

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:goodjob:

Assuming you're not serious. In that case :lol: :goodjob:
 
Hitro said:
According to most Christian teaching, pride comes before the fall. Therefore narcism as a certain type of pride should be "wrong" as well but still most Christians endulge in it to various degrees so apparently it isn't that "wrong" but rather somewhat "right".

My question to Christians is, why is narcism evil?
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Because...

I have in my school one h**l of narcistic guy, I mean he doesn't even laugh at others (good ;) ) jokes. He bullies the weaker all the time, he steals, doesn't pay his debts, he all the times uses physical violence, even sometimes in the front of the teacher! , Etc (i think you get the point ;) )


Narcisim is probaly one of the worst 'evils', methinks

:mad:
 
What's wrong with narcism?
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It often hurts people's feelings when someone expresses a high level or self-importance. Of course everyone thinks their own life is the most important thing in the world but it's not kosher to express such views and tends to be a conversation stopper.

Joe : Pretty good bowling score, Josh.
Josh : Thanks, you did pretty well yourself, if you had your lucky ball you might have beaten me.
Joe : I doubt it but yeah, I do score better with it. Say, how's your wife?
Josh : She's alright. How's your lovely wife?
Joe : She's well thanks. Hey, maybe we could all go bowling together next week.
Josh : Yeah, alright, I hear social bonds are supposed to be good for my healthy, opps, I mean thanks, splendid!

as opposed to

Joe : Pretty good bowling score, Josh.
Josh : That's right bit**! I'm the man and you're not!
Joe : umm... yeah whatever... how's Melissa?
Josh : Oh, she's great. Thank God I'm not with your fat wife, haha, you poor man! Yep, good bowler, good lover, get good love. Yep, I'm cool alright!
Joe : What the hell is your problem tonight? I'm gonna get you fired.

Not to say one has to be as rote or dull as Josh in the first conversation. I think the ideal is to be as blatently honest as possible while aiming to respect others and keep some sense of tact.

As to the Christian take on narcissim. I think some Christians are perhaps intimidated by those they see as mostly self-reliant. One of the highest virtues of Christianity is helping others and how can you help someone who doesn't need your help. Kind of like how, without sick people, a doctor is out of business. What would Jesus have done if he came to Earth to save our wicked selves and people told him, "Nah, it's cool J, we're doing alright, we don't want your help, go away"? He might have been angry enough to kill a whole orchird of fig trees. This is not meant as an attack on Christianity but to accept the teachings of it one has to believe oneself to be inadaquete (a "sinner" to be percise) and to see others as equally flawed. Seeing as this society (US) was founded by Puritan Christians it makes sense that a strong sense of self is feared and frowned upon. But I don't think this problem is particular only to Christians.
 
Oh, by the way, the name Narz is in no way related to narcissim, it's a mutation of my last name. I always wondered if anyone thought it was.
 
Hitro said:
:goodjob:

Assuming you're not serious. In that case :lol: :goodjob:
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Hitro activates a classic 'ego-defence tactic'.

Whatever. You were wrong, and cannot admit it. ;)

Let's move on before your fragile self-esteem implodes.

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Narz said:
Oh, by the way, the name Narz is in no way related to narcissim, it's a mutation of my last name. I always wondered if anyone thought it was.
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That thought never crossed my mind, but the first thing I associated to when I saw "narcism" was your name. I didn't realize it was a variant of "narcissism" till I read the OP.
 
The Last Conformist said:
That thought never crossed my mind, but the first thing I associated to when I saw "narcism" was your name. I didn't realize it was a variant of "narcissism" till I read the OP.
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That could be another nice take on the question. :D

I think there's not that much wrong with narzism. A little, maybe, but not that much.
 
Hitro said:
I think there's not that much wrong with narzism. A little, maybe, but not that much.
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I think Narzism is a healthy and wholesome religion. I will be starting a paypal donation box to build a Narzian temple, create a 40 foot statue of myself and hire a harem. Once the temple is built services will be held every Wednesday (ha, I'll be the first religion with Tuesday as a holy day, it will be a great excuse to skip work).

:D
 
Narz said:
As to the Christian take on narcissim. I think some Christians are perhaps intimidated by those they see as mostly self-reliant. One of the highest virtues of Christianity is helping others and how can you help someone who doesn't need your help. Kind of like how, without sick people, a doctor is out of business. What would Jesus have done if he came to Earth to save our wicked selves and people told him, "Nah, it's cool J, we're doing alright, we don't want your help, go away"? He might have been angry enough to kill a whole orchird of fig trees. This is not meant as an attack on Christianity but to accept the teachings of it one has to believe oneself to be inadaquete (a "sinner" to be percise) and to see others as equally flawed. Seeing as this society (US) was founded by Puritan Christians it makes sense that a strong sense of self is feared and frowned upon. But I don't think this problem is particular only to Christians.
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Hmm, I doubt it. Christians as I know them, especially Protestants, tend to value self-reliance. I imagine this is partly where their conservatism comes from, and if I'm not mistaken this Christian respect for self-reliance started in northern Europe as both Protestantism (especially Calvinism) and modern capitalism were taking root, and basically moved across the sea to America, leaving European Christianity in a more socialist state, which certainly seems more logically consistent when you think about it.
 
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