futurehermit
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Well, you still have Dave telling you about cottages, so that's something at least 
But, yeah, don't forget the fundamental mantra.
But, yeah, don't forget the fundamental mantra.
When not to settle in place a uniquely doomed Civ
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KMadCandy
giggling permanoob
Well, you still have Dave telling you about cottages, so that's something at least
not exactly ... he's changed his tune
well okay... there was more to that post
Spoiler :
The Conquerer22
Warlord
do hamlets add population to your civ and closest cities? I barely play civ 4 games so I completely forget
futurehermit
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not exactly ... he's changed his tune
well okay... there was more to that post
haha, yeah that's one of my fav of his quotes. it's even funnier in the context of his debate with obsolete who swears off cottages. that's the mark of a good game when two guys can have such divergent opinions and both be right
Can you post the save? It would be fun to see who can do the best with that miserable start
Airefuego,
I'm with AngryZealot. I know I'd have no hope of winning, but I have a few ideas I'd like to try. If you could, would you please post a save?
sylvanllewelyn
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You really gonna try that game? I think you're totally screwed.
If you insist, I would:
- build a settler and lots of archers
- declare war on someone and hope they raze your capital
- since you have a settler, not having cities won't kill you
- settle on the coast
Chance of suck-cess is still zero though.
If you insist, I would:
- build a settler and lots of archers
- declare war on someone and hope they raze your capital
- since you have a settler, not having cities won't kill you
- settle on the coast
Chance of suck-cess is still zero though.
vicawoo
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That's hilarious, your strategy is basically settling on the coast with the loss of dozens of turns. This should be a variant. 8 tile OCC.
Actually, he has more than 8 tiles and stone. He could do a wonder strat and go pyramids. Yeah, it just might work for awhile.
sylvanllewelyn,
And what better way to learn how to overcome some of the more difficult features in Civ than to play where your chances of success are zero?
It'd definitely teach me a lot about the game, that's for sure.
The Conquerer22
Warlord
will someone please answer this question do hamlets add population to your civ and closest cities?
No they do not. they add commerce only food will increase your population.
ParadigmShifter
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And the Hanging Gardens 
The Conquerer22
Warlord
thank you struttrboy
My first thought upon looking at your pics was that settling in place was a bad, bad idea even without knowing that you would eventually be trapped. Right off the bat you waste several coastal tiles that will never get bonuses from lighthouses/colossus, and you won't get teh benefit of the coastal resources until much later. Combine that with the lack of overseas trade routes, and you can see why it's better to settle either on the coast, or farther inland.
Funny story though, good post.
Funny story though, good post.
And the Hanging Gardens
And Axemen....and of course the ultimate Wonder...The World Builder of Doom
KMadCandy
giggling permanoob
never get bonus from colossus? sure they will, as soon as we find a way to build it or capture it
. it counts for all water tiles.never get bonus from colossus? sure they will, as soon as we find a way to build it or capture it
KMad,
And is rendered obsolete by Astronomy.
URSExelcior
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LOL. Best start ever. 
The Conquerer22
Warlord
that belongs to me on civ 3 conquests, I expanded like crazy, then built up my tech then military, I was the best, andit was on the hardest level, which I forget the name for it is,lol, my bad on that
KMadCandy
giggling permanoob
ah, but that's the beauty of not being able to make ships. we have no need for astronomy.KMad,
And is rendered obsolete by Astronomy.
glass half full! just kind of ignore the fact that it's what's keeping us from making colossus in the first place *giggle*.Airefuego
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Hey all, thanks for the comments! and well-deserved taunting
Yep settling in place was definitely the wrong move
- I think I was getting too greedy thinking the blank grasslands tiles might contain strategic resources. Well, one did, but it wasn't exactly worth it! 
Also I was guilty of trusting the start generator too much, I guess because starting positions are usually pretty good these days after all those patches etc.
As for the mountain "blocking" bug, I don't know if it is a bug or not, the map was a small medium-and-small map which I know can turn out archipelagic-ish or island starts, for all I know I am on the big part of a smallish island. As if the start could get worse.
So now I'm curious to play it out and see how it goes. I see I'm not the only one so I'll definitely post a save in few days when I get home from holidays.
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and well-deserved taunting Yep settling in place was definitely the wrong move
- I think I was getting too greedy thinking the blank grasslands tiles might contain strategic resources. Well, one did, but it wasn't exactly worth it! Also I was guilty of trusting the start generator too much, I guess because starting positions are usually pretty good these days after all those patches etc.
As for the mountain "blocking" bug, I don't know if it is a bug or not, the map was a small medium-and-small map which I know can turn out archipelagic-ish or island starts, for all I know I am on the big part of a smallish island. As if the start could get worse.
So now I'm curious to play it out and see how it goes. I see I'm not the only one so I'll definitely post a save in few days when I get home from holidays.
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