Zardnaar
Deity
This thread is about how to run a country where BLM isn't needed. As most of you know I'm from NZ. Here our expectations of America is fairly low, carried a bit further the country is seem as a bit of a joke often a bad one.
Out of the Anglo Saxon families NZ is a lot more eglatarian than our cousins in the rest of the Anglosphere. This is because of the culture going back to the 19th century.
I would be lying if I said racism doesn't exist here but it's more of a casual sort, not the virulent strain that you see in the US. We never had slavery or segregation. We don't really have many blacks either and most are African not African Americans.
So why is this? One thing that makes NZ unique us the Maori culture who are similar to the numbers of African Americans. Colonialism was not good to them but they were never slaves except the ones that were enslaved by other tribes.
The other traditional minority is Chinese. They turned up to work the gold fields in the 19th century. They've been here longer than the concept of NZ as a nation. Early on the proto NZers saw themselves as British not NZers. Empire day was a thing.
The Maori are us. The joke here is race relations are going to be solved between the bed sheets. Intermarriage here was very common back in the days when the first Europeans here were whalers and not settlers. A lot of NZ families have Polynesians in them. I personally have Polynesian cousins and they get invited to social events as part of the family.
Informally every NZers is a kiwi. A Kiwi cuts across racial lines and it gives as a national identity. Foreigners can become a citizen but it's a bit harder to become a kiwi. Not impossible but if you're raised here you automatically become one. Doesn't really matter what colour your skin is.
The other main thing is the public school system. Basically rich, poor, black, white, brown, yellow etc you all go to the same schools. They are ranked from decile 1 (poor) to decile 10 (rich) based on the surrounding area. Low decile schools get extra government funding. My high school was decile 6 in small town NZ.
The surrounding kids in the rural areas get bused in, the urban kids don't have much choice it was kind of the only school (for boys). Rich, poor you all got the same education. More importantly you got to socialize togather.
Pretty much every kiwi male and a good chunk of the females know how to play rugby. Even if you don't like it you play it at school. Being good at rugby is kind of race blind. At high school it's the NZ equivalent of jocks. It's also team building though drummed into you from childhood.
Main point is the schools were not segregated. Neither was the town. This has somewhat recently started to break down in Auckland and the larger cities along economic lines as school districts introduced zoning laws in the 90s. I live in the South though the North is a bit different.
A side effect of the schooling system is you also pick up basic Maori even in the deep South where there used to be very few (internal migration has changed things recently, priced out of the North). Every Maori is automatically a Kiwi, so is every Pakeha, not every white person is though (sorry Europe).
Example.
Tahi, ruha, toru, wha. 1,2,3,4 Seseme Street here had Maori not Spanish.
Tangi- funeral
Hangi- earth oven
Iwi-tribe
Haka-type of dance
Kai- food.
Most children of immigrants going through the school system automatically become kiwis. Some don't but they more or less have to go out of their way to avoid becoming a kiwi.
Net result is we haven't had that break down USA is experiencing or the UK is going through. We lack the casual racism Australia has towards the Aboriginals. Since the 19th century we've had integrated schools and 3 cultures living togather more or less in peace. More cultures have arrived recently.
We haven't had a mass shooting by a kiwi in over a generation. The police are unarmed, 37 iirc police have been killed ever. Riots are practically unheard of, street protests violence is practically unheard of. It's something you read about in 40's and 50's history.
Overall it's generally very safe. I've got blind drunk and passed out in a park and not been robbed or pick pocketed. Town I grew up in you didn't have to lock the doors or the car. By international standards we are politically stable, not very corrupt and reasonably well off.
Culturally we're the closest to the Aussies, I think we've also got a lot in common with Canada. I would be lying if I claimed it's perfect here. Bad things can still happen obviously. We've had 5 tourists murdered here in 30 years for example.
This is how we have done some things. The kiwi concept and how you treat each other is a large part of how to run a society IMHO.
Out of the Anglo Saxon families NZ is a lot more eglatarian than our cousins in the rest of the Anglosphere. This is because of the culture going back to the 19th century.
I would be lying if I said racism doesn't exist here but it's more of a casual sort, not the virulent strain that you see in the US. We never had slavery or segregation. We don't really have many blacks either and most are African not African Americans.
So why is this? One thing that makes NZ unique us the Maori culture who are similar to the numbers of African Americans. Colonialism was not good to them but they were never slaves except the ones that were enslaved by other tribes.
The other traditional minority is Chinese. They turned up to work the gold fields in the 19th century. They've been here longer than the concept of NZ as a nation. Early on the proto NZers saw themselves as British not NZers. Empire day was a thing.
The Maori are us. The joke here is race relations are going to be solved between the bed sheets. Intermarriage here was very common back in the days when the first Europeans here were whalers and not settlers. A lot of NZ families have Polynesians in them. I personally have Polynesian cousins and they get invited to social events as part of the family.
Informally every NZers is a kiwi. A Kiwi cuts across racial lines and it gives as a national identity. Foreigners can become a citizen but it's a bit harder to become a kiwi. Not impossible but if you're raised here you automatically become one. Doesn't really matter what colour your skin is.
The other main thing is the public school system. Basically rich, poor, black, white, brown, yellow etc you all go to the same schools. They are ranked from decile 1 (poor) to decile 10 (rich) based on the surrounding area. Low decile schools get extra government funding. My high school was decile 6 in small town NZ.
The surrounding kids in the rural areas get bused in, the urban kids don't have much choice it was kind of the only school (for boys). Rich, poor you all got the same education. More importantly you got to socialize togather.
Pretty much every kiwi male and a good chunk of the females know how to play rugby. Even if you don't like it you play it at school. Being good at rugby is kind of race blind. At high school it's the NZ equivalent of jocks. It's also team building though drummed into you from childhood.
Main point is the schools were not segregated. Neither was the town. This has somewhat recently started to break down in Auckland and the larger cities along economic lines as school districts introduced zoning laws in the 90s. I live in the South though the North is a bit different.
A side effect of the schooling system is you also pick up basic Maori even in the deep South where there used to be very few (internal migration has changed things recently, priced out of the North). Every Maori is automatically a Kiwi, so is every Pakeha, not every white person is though (sorry Europe).
Example.
Tahi, ruha, toru, wha. 1,2,3,4 Seseme Street here had Maori not Spanish.
Tangi- funeral
Hangi- earth oven
Iwi-tribe
Haka-type of dance
Kai- food.
Most children of immigrants going through the school system automatically become kiwis. Some don't but they more or less have to go out of their way to avoid becoming a kiwi.
Net result is we haven't had that break down USA is experiencing or the UK is going through. We lack the casual racism Australia has towards the Aboriginals. Since the 19th century we've had integrated schools and 3 cultures living togather more or less in peace. More cultures have arrived recently.
We haven't had a mass shooting by a kiwi in over a generation. The police are unarmed, 37 iirc police have been killed ever. Riots are practically unheard of, street protests violence is practically unheard of. It's something you read about in 40's and 50's history.
Overall it's generally very safe. I've got blind drunk and passed out in a park and not been robbed or pick pocketed. Town I grew up in you didn't have to lock the doors or the car. By international standards we are politically stable, not very corrupt and reasonably well off.
Culturally we're the closest to the Aussies, I think we've also got a lot in common with Canada. I would be lying if I claimed it's perfect here. Bad things can still happen obviously. We've had 5 tourists murdered here in 30 years for example.
This is how we have done some things. The kiwi concept and how you treat each other is a large part of how to run a society IMHO.
