Roman Empire = Italy,Spain, France, England, Germany, Greece, Tunis, Egypt, Hungary, Romania, Turkey and what not...
I think we have our champion.
Which Civ wins the most medals in London Olympics ;)
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Roman Empire = Italy,Spain, France, England, Germany, Greece, Tunis, Egypt, Hungary, Romania, Turkey and what not...
I think we have our champion.
He said to pick any point in time rather than the leader's time.
The mongols would win then
let us look
China 38
Russian Fed. 21
Korea 13
Hungary 8
Kazakhstan 6
Ukraine 5
Iran 4
Poland 2
Azerbaijan 2
Georgia 1
Uzbekistan 1
Mongolia 0
Total = 119
Compare to, say Great Britian cira 1775
United States 44
Great Britain 28
Jamaica 4
Canada 1
Bahamas 1
Grenada 1
Trinidad 1
Total = 80
Or Great Britain, her colonies and domains cira 1914
Great Britain 28
Australia 7
New Zealand 5
Jamaica 4
South Africa 3
Kenya 2
Canada 1
Bahamas 1
Grenada 1
Ireland 1
Trinidad 1
Total = 54
I object having Poland or Hungary under Mongols though as they were never formaly attached to Mongolian conqests neither controled.
havuoksa
Warlord
Don't remember who posted originally that MONGOLIAN Civ-"idea",
but I'm sure CIV5 Mongolia would win the London 2012 Olympics!
Ok, here's mine:
Sweden: 1gold, 3silver, 3bronze =7
Finland: 1silver, 2 bronze = 3 (Last London Olympics Finns got 24 medals, talkin' about degenerization!!!)
= 10 for "Sweden"
I'm positive Mongolia WILL win this thread, who will be the first to count those countries' medals together?
And if someone counts Denmark, MAKE SURE there will be Norway too!!
but I'm sure CIV5 Mongolia would win the London 2012 Olympics!
Ok, here's mine:
Sweden: 1gold, 3silver, 3bronze =7
Finland: 1silver, 2 bronze = 3 (Last London Olympics Finns got 24 medals, talkin' about degenerization!!!)
= 10 for "Sweden"
I'm positive Mongolia WILL win this thread, who will be the first to count those countries' medals together?
And if someone counts Denmark, MAKE SURE there will be Norway too!!
havuoksa
Warlord
Let's keep it in CIV5! Gengis Khan, otherwise good but, can you really add RUSSIA. I bet you can't. Genghis, did he rule Korea? Really?? That would be news for me.
Whoever "invented" Mongolia on this one, it sure wins with China etc etc even without Russia. So is that 98 medals!?
England on time of Elizabeth is tough. I'll leave it to wiser people.
havuoksa
Warlord
O.K. here is what I found concerning Austrian empire:
Austria proper: 0 - 0 - 0
Hungary: 8 - 4 - 5
Czech rep.: 3 - 3 - 3
Slovakia: 0 - 1 - 3
Slovenia: 1 - 1 - 2
Croatia: 2 - 1 -1
Total: 14-10-14
38 for Civ5-Austria.
havuoksa
Warlord
Who else would disagree / agree that Genghis Khan, Mongolia ruled the MOST of Russia??
Taking the capital is always huge thing...
Taking the capital is always huge thing...
Roman Empire circa 180 AD crushes Mongols numbers.
119 for Mongolia as stated above
For Rome:
GB (controlled England Wales and the most populous part of Scotland giving it more than 90 percent of the country's population, so it should count): 62
France: 33
Italy: 23
Hungary (About half the country, so I'll give a count with and without): 17
Netherlands: 20
Spain: 16
Turkey: 5
Croatia: 4
Switzerland: 3
Georgia: 6
Slovenia: 4
Serbia: 3
Tunisia: 3
Algeria: 1
Egypt: 2
Armenia: 3
Belgium: 3
Bulgaria: 2
Cyprus: 1
Montenegro: 1
Portugal: 1
Greece: 2
Morocco: 1
199 without Hungary, 216 with. Feel free to check my mental math. Keep in mind for any one who wants to argue small chunks of some of those countries were outside of the borders of the empire, that count doesn't take into account that the Rhineland, one of the most populous parts of Germany was part of the Empire and they got no credit for it.
119 for Mongolia as stated above
For Rome:
GB (controlled England Wales and the most populous part of Scotland giving it more than 90 percent of the country's population, so it should count): 62
France: 33
Italy: 23
Hungary (About half the country, so I'll give a count with and without): 17
Netherlands: 20
Spain: 16
Turkey: 5
Croatia: 4
Switzerland: 3
Georgia: 6
Slovenia: 4
Serbia: 3
Tunisia: 3
Algeria: 1
Egypt: 2
Armenia: 3
Belgium: 3
Bulgaria: 2
Cyprus: 1
Montenegro: 1
Portugal: 1
Greece: 2
Morocco: 1
199 without Hungary, 216 with. Feel free to check my mental math. Keep in mind for any one who wants to argue small chunks of some of those countries were outside of the borders of the empire, that count doesn't take into account that the Rhineland, one of the most populous parts of Germany was part of the Empire and they got no credit for it.
Are we going by current population? Because they ruled over the desolate regions of Russia, but the nice parts were merely paying tribute to their Mongol overlords.
Also, I just thought of something, at one point Spain ruled over a territory that would probably hold half of the US's current population. I don't know how that should be counted.
Bakspatel
Prince
I like your idea but isn't it a bit difficult to display it on the time of that particular leaders rule?
Take for example this map of the Netherlands, displaying the period between 1590-1592:
Orange = area controlled by the Republic, Yellow = occupied by the Spanish and the last one is area which was conquered by the Republic in the period between 1590-1592.
That is six years after Willems assassination, the situation was even far more dire in his last days. If you leave out the provinces that back then weren't liberated yet you would have to leave out the medal winners from almost six (seven, if you include Flevoland which was back then still part of the Zuiderzee, Southern Sea). It would also leave out areas which became part of the Netherlands after the Napoleonic wars (and also the foundation of Belgium), then the Netherlands would lose quite a bunch of medals. I can image it would be even more difficult to calculate for other civilizations.
The Mongol count was only golds.
He said to pick any point in time rather than the leader's time.
Yeah... Mongolia wins under those curcumstances. And yeah
Indeed it was. Same with the British Empire one. After all if you believe the press gold is all that matters.
50% of America's medals should go to Zulu or Ethiopia or Congo
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havuoksa
Warlord
Why didn't I even remember Rome!? Maybe 'cause it's never been in my game. I think Rome is the only one who could beat Mongolia&Genghis Khan. What would the metal count for Mongolia be then? Silvers and bronzes included.
havuoksa
Warlord
I think this is final enough already:
http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P625_01.html
Click "alasivu >" to get the countries on lower standings.
Still VERY interested which wins, Rome of Julius Caesar or Mongolia of Genghis Khan.
Unfortunately don't know the history of Genghis or Caesar well enough that i could count them
http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P625_01.html
Click "alasivu >" to get the countries on lower standings.
Still VERY interested which wins, Rome of Julius Caesar or Mongolia of Genghis Khan.
Unfortunately don't know the history of Genghis or Caesar well enough that i could count them
I think this is final enough already:
http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P625_01.html
Click "alasivu >" to get the countries on lower standings.
Still VERY interested which wins, Rome of Julius Caesar or Mongolia of Genghis Khan.
Unfortunately don't know the history of Genghis or Caesar well enough that i could count them
Rome of Julius Caesar included most of the "classic" Roman empire without Britain or Egypt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RomanRepublic40BC.jpg
If you want to be techical, it covers Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Tunisia, Libya, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro, Greece, Turkey, Romania, Syria, Lebanon, Cypris, and a tiny bit in the Ukrane, Netherlands, Luxomberg, Belgium, and a bit of Algeria
So thats
France 11 11 12 34
Italy 8 9 11 28
Ukraine 6 5 9 20
Netherlands 6 6 8 20
Spain 3 10 4 17
Croatia 3 1 2 6
Romania 2 5 2 9
Turkey 2 2 1 5
Slovenia 1 1 2 4
Serbia 1 1 2 4
Tunisia 1 1 1 3
Algeria 1 0 0 1
Slovakia 0 1 3 4
Belgium 0 1 2 3
Total 45 54 59 158
Mongol Empire of Ghengis' era included much of southern siberia, the current 'stans, northern Persia, Northern China . But not Korea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Genghis_Khan_empire-en.svg
China 38 27 22 87
Russian Fed. 24 25 33 82
Kazakhstan 7 1 5 13
Iran 4 5 3 12
Uzbekistan 1 0 3 4
Mongolia 0 2 3 5
Mongolia 0 2 3 5
Afghanistan 0 0 1 1
Tajikistan 0 0 1 1
Total 74 62 74 210
If I'm looking at Denmark creatively, through the ages we have had more or less contol over the following nations:
G-S-B Total
Denmark 2-4-3 9
Faroe Islands 0-0-0
Greenland 0-0-0
Iceland 0-0-0
Norway 2-1-1 4
Sweden 1-4-3 8
Finland 0-1-2 3
Estonia 0-1-1 2
England
Scotland
Wales
as GB 29-26-32 87
Total 34-37-42 113
It's not enough to win, and it's not a fair comparison as this was not at one time in Denmarks history, but still 34 gold and 113 total is quite a bit.
G-S-B Total
Denmark 2-4-3 9
Faroe Islands 0-0-0
Greenland 0-0-0
Iceland 0-0-0
Norway 2-1-1 4
Sweden 1-4-3 8
Finland 0-1-2 3
Estonia 0-1-1 2
England
Scotland
Wales
as GB 29-26-32 87
Total 34-37-42 113
It's not enough to win, and it's not a fair comparison as this was not at one time in Denmarks history, but still 34 gold and 113 total is quite a bit.
havuoksa
Warlord
First to you, did you get that this was Harald Bluetooth's time for Denmark? So then Denmark's medals would be much less of course. But as for FINLAND'S case, Denmark "ruled" only a tiny area on the south coast on 1100's for a short time, so I wouldn't include Finns at all. But i do get your point somehow (you said "more creatively"), but still. Nice to see those medal-numbers still though. *If in Civ5 there was Victoria instead of Elizabeth for England/British Empire, that would be a tough nut to crack!
havuoksa
Warlord
THANKS Nyanko! I thought so:
Civilization 5's London Olympics do have gold and silver medalists finally
1. GOLD-medal for MONGOLIA with 210 medals (NEVER will ANY country have 210 medals in real Olympics, so Genghis Khan is turnin'in his grave about his bad luck that he was 700 years late for 1st Olympics of 1896ad!)
2. SILVER-medal for ROME with 158 medals
3. BRONZE-medal, if some one cares to count that last medal for a Civ, Please do! (It actually might be 1st Modern Country = U.S.A.?
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Yeah, that was my thought. Rome includes England, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Slovenia, Albania, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Egypt, and a few other countries I'm missing. While Mongolia had a larger empire, those countries don't necessarily have that many medals, with the exception of China.
Another candidate is the Arabs, if you include them at their height to include Spain.
ETA: I forgot about Russia under the Mongols. Yeah, the Mongols probably do win.
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