Swein Forkbeard
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Which female leader would you prefer instead of Boudica?
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TrailblazingScot
I was kittenOFchaos
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SwordofStriker
Prince
I never thought Boudica was all that attractive, but I tend to look above and beyond her two big traits...
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
Boudica is so not hot; she looks like one of those weather beaten, 40 something Mid-West diner waitresses in some awful Zena costume.
EDIT: Anyways, in answer to the question, how about Elizabeth Báthory? Of course we'd need to add the Hungarians or the Transylvanians or something, but that'd be easy enough with another XP ... or have a patch replacing the HRE with Hungary.
EDIT: Anyways, in answer to the question, how about Elizabeth Báthory? Of course we'd need to add the Hungarians or the Transylvanians or something, but that'd be easy enough with another XP ... or have a patch replacing the HRE with Hungary.
obliterate
Warrior Monk
Boudica is so not hot; she looks like one of those weather beaten, 40 something Mid-West diner waitresses in some awful Zena costume.
EDIT: Anyways, in answer to the question, how about Elizabeth Báthory? Of course we'd need to add the Hungarians or the Transylvanians or something, but that'd be easy enough with another XP ... or have a patch replacing the HRE with Hungary.
Are you serious?
Elizabeth Bathory drank and bathed in the blood of young girls and women after sexual abusing them. She thought the blood would keep her young. She would have to be the worst possible choice.
Jamesds
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weimingshi
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I vote fore empress wu zetian Of china. Unlike boudica, she is a true empress and the only empress china ever had. In a male dominant society like china where women are mostly confined to the backyard of their homes, for a woman to proclaim herself empress is unthinkable. Whats more unbelivable is she succeeded and ruled china for a few decades. When she took the throne, china was not a shattered country at all. It was in the middle of Tang dynasty, China just recently had a golden age under the rule of Tang TaiZon, Wu zetian's first husband. It is the most powerful country in the world at that time. No women before her or after her dared to repeat her feat.
JKWSN
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As much as we "complain" that Firaxis made all the female leaderheads attractive, would you prefer Eleanor Roosevelt?
Joan D'Arc would have been a better choice than De Gaulle IMO. She could have Brennus' current traits (Sp Ch) and he'd take Boudica's.
Maria-Therisia might be one for the HRE though I don't know what traits I'd assign to her offhand
Joan D'Arc would have been a better choice than De Gaulle IMO. She could have Brennus' current traits (Sp Ch) and he'd take Boudica's.
Maria-Therisia might be one for the HRE though I don't know what traits I'd assign to her offhand
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
sydhe
King of Kongs
I go with Empress Wu. Semiramis would be cool if she wasn't mostly fictional.
If we had a Hebrew civilization, Deborah would be an interesting leader.
If we had a Hebrew civilization, Deborah would be an interesting leader.
sydhe
King of Kongs
She looks to me like she has a really bad case of hay fever.
Dark_Jedi06
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I'm perfectly fine with Boudica, but was disappointed when Civ IV first came out and Joan of Arc was missing.
I would love to see Wu Zetian in the game as well. She didn't rule China for longer than a decade but what she did was completely unique and she actually executed some decent reform policies as well (mostly benefitting women).
I like Boudica a lot as well though. She may not have been the most influential figure but frankly neither was Brennus or any Celtic leader I can think of. And female warrior leaders are extremely rare.
I like Boudica a lot as well though. She may not have been the most influential figure but frankly neither was Brennus or any Celtic leader I can think of. And female warrior leaders are extremely rare.
Wait a second, that's not normal?
Quagga
Former Dictator
To me, she looks like she's been drinking.
Scaramanga
Brickhead
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.I'd leave Joan of Arc as a great general or a great prophet. That's what she was, afterall: a battlefield commander who saw visions for all of three years until she was burned at the stake at the tender young age of 19. I'd rather keep the longer lived (at least to 30's) leaders as Civ leaders and let the interesting personalities fall as they may.
For the Celts, Boudica (the Iceni Queen) is as good as any. Why? Because the Celts were never really unified except for occasional alliances against each other and Rome. It's not as easy to pick a good ruler to represent all the Celts as it is for a country like the US, which, for the narrow exception of ~4 years, has always had a single executive head.
However, if anything, Boudica would still deserve a slot as a great general...maybe. She did, after all, lose the only real battle she fought against the Romans. Her previous engagements consisted of ambush and slaughtering civilians, and that's not exactly noteworthy.
For the Celts, Boudica (the Iceni Queen) is as good as any. Why? Because the Celts were never really unified except for occasional alliances against each other and Rome. It's not as easy to pick a good ruler to represent all the Celts as it is for a country like the US, which, for the narrow exception of ~4 years, has always had a single executive head.
However, if anything, Boudica would still deserve a slot as a great general...maybe. She did, after all, lose the only real battle she fought against the Romans. Her previous engagements consisted of ambush and slaughtering civilians, and that's not exactly noteworthy.
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