Which films have you seen lately? ΚΓ' - The thread is your movie hegemon.

the first one in Disney's cancelled triology , is a copy that tricked the fans , despite my good coverage at the time and whatnot . By being the same , but having the lens flare and more CGI . Promising things later movies wouldn't deliver . It is supposed to work as a buffer , if you don't like TFA , you can't possibly like the OT ! And even in this day , the threat of cancellation . Like Luke Skywalker thrashing Kylo Ren will definitely survive . This thing about Diversity is bs , from the beginning to the end .


if racism was a thing in 1975 or 76 to get Grace Kelly strike out the lines "in the 33rd Century AD" and a Black Han Solo and people insist it wasn't the Star Trek when the first interracial kiss took place on American TV , one would expect and accept a story better written and filmed . Star Wars is the very best venue to tell a most convincing story of a little girl being the strongest and smartest . It is the essential part of the story actually . But for the thing about oh , how free they are to wear high heels , how liberating to wear a skirt , oh , look at those fools off Yavin IV , they are the enemies of Mankind but let us have some Agent Kloss somewhere for cools . Oh , there is going to be a time to discuss this , but anyhow .

it is progreviss or whateverism that insults to bask in counterinsults . It re-made Trump . Despite Mark Hamill like being his most vocal opponent .
 

Val Kilmer, Film Star Who Played Batman and Jim Morrison, Dies at 65​

A wide-ranging leading man who earned critical praise, he was known to be charismatic but unpredictable. At one point he dropped out of Hollywood for a decade.

A man with a suit and dark shirt sit son a red bench and leans his arm on the side of it.

Val Kilmer posing for a portrait in Nashville in 2014.Credit...Mark Humphrey/Associated Press
By Bruce Weber
Published April 1, 2025Updated April 2, 2025, 12:28 a.m. ET
Val Kilmer, a homegrown Hollywood actor who tasted leading-man stardom as Jim Morrison and Batman, but whose protean gifts and elusive personality also made him a high-profile supporting player, died on Tuesday in Los Angeles. He was 65.

The cause was pneumonia, said his daughter, Mercedes Kilmer. Mr. Kilmer was diagnosed with throat cancer in 2014 and later recovered, she said.

Tall and handsome in a rock-star sort of way, Mr. Kilmer was in fact cast as a rocker a handful of times early in his career, when he seemed destined for blockbuster success. He made his feature debut in a slapstick Cold War spy-movie spoof, “Top Secret!” (1984), in which he starred as a crowd-pleasing, hip-shaking American singer in Berlin unwittingly involved in an East German plot to reunify the country.

He gave a vividly stylized performance as Morrison, the emblem of psychedelic sensuality, in Oliver Stone’s “The Doors” (1991), and he played the cameo role of Mentor — an advice-giving Elvis as imagined by the film’s antiheroic protagonist, played by Christian Slater — in “True Romance” (1993), a violent drug-chase caper written by Quentin Tarantino and directed by Tony Scott.

Mr. Kilmer had top billing (ahead of Sam Shepard) in “Thunderheart” (1992), playing an unseasoned F.B.I. agent investigating a murder on a South Dakota Indian reservation, and in “The Saint” (1997), a thriller about a debonair, resourceful thief playing cat-and-mouse with the Russian mob. Most famously, perhaps, between Michael Keaton and George Clooney he inhabited the title role (and the batsuit) in “Batman Forever” (1995), doing battle in Gotham City with Two-Face (Tommy Lee Jones) and the Riddler (Jim Carrey), though neither Mr. Kilmer nor the film were viewed as stellar representatives of the Batman franchise.

“Serious audiences will be less interested than ever in what’s under Batman’s cape or cowl,” Janet Maslin wrote in The New York Times. “There’s not much to contemplate here beyond the spectacle of gimmicky props and the kitsch of good actors (all of whom have lately done better work elsewhere) dressed for a red-hot Halloween.”

But by then another, perhaps more interesting, strain of Mr. Kilmer’s career had developed. In 1986, Mr. Scott cast him in his first big-budget film, “Top Gun” (1986), the testosterone-fueled adventure drama about Navy fighter pilots in training, in which Mr. Kilmer played the cool, cocky rival to the film’s star, Tom Cruise. It was a role that set a precedent for several of Mr. Kilmer’s other prominent appearances as a co-star or a member of a starry ensemble. He reprised it in a brief cameo in the film’s 2022 sequel, “Top Gun: Maverick.”

He played the urbane, profligate gunslinger Doc Holliday in “Tombstone” (1993), a bloody western, alongside Kurt Russell, Sam Elliott and Bill Paxton as Wyatt, Virgil and Morgan Earp. He was part of a robbery gang in “Heat” (1995), a contemporary urban “High Noon”-ish tale that was a vehicle for Robert De Niro as the mastermind of a heist and Al Pacino as the cop who chases him down. He was a co-star, billed beneath Michael Douglas, in “The Ghost and the Darkness” (1996), a period piece about lion hunting set in late 19th century Africa. In “Pollock” (2000), starring Ed Harris as the painter Jackson Pollock, he was a fellow artist, Willem de Kooning. He played Philip of Macedon, the father of Alexander the Great (Colin Farrell), in Oliver Stone’s grandiose epic “Alexander” (2004).

Throughout his career Mr. Kilmer often left an impression, with movie viewers as well as moviemakers, of unpredictability.

“Most actors recognize there’s something different in Val than meets the eye,” Mr. Stone said in a 2007 interview for a segment of the television series “Biography.” David Mamet, the playwright and screenwriter who directed Mr. Kilmer in the political thriller “Spartan” (2004), added, “What Val has as an actor is something that the really, really great actors have, which is they make everything sound like an improvisation.”

On the screen, he was both charismatic and curiosity-piquing, an actor who didn’t let his characters give emotional clues away easily. Off the screen, he had his share of disagreements, especially early in his career, when he earned a reputation for surliness and self-involvement. A 1996 cover article about him in Entertainment Weekly was titled “The Man Hollywood Loves to Hate.”

“He offended people by being hard to understand,” said Mr. Stone, one of several people over the years who said Mr. Kilmer turned them off before turning them back on again. Robert Downey Jr., who co-starred with Mr. Kilmer in the wry 2005 murder mystery “Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,” acknowledged in the “Biography” segment that he couldn’t stand him when they first met, though they eventually became great friends.

“I’m sure this can’t be news to you that he’s chronically eccentric,” Mr. Downey said.

Val Edward Kilmer was born in Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 1959, and grew up in the Chatsworth neighborhood in the far northwest part of the city, where his neighbors were Roy Rogers and Dale Evans and his high school classmates were Kevin Spacey and Mare Winningham. His father, Eugene, a real estate developer, and his mother, the former Gladys Ekstadt, divorced when Val was 9. His younger brother Wesley drowned in a swimming pool in 1977, an event that haunted Mr. Kilmer for years afterward.

His memories of that loss were at the center of his performance in “The Salton Sea” (2002), about a man driven by guilt and seeking redemption after witnessing the murder of his wife and being unable to save her. “There are several points in the movie where the guy just can’t go on,” Mr. Kilmer said in an interview with The New York Times in 2002. “I didn’t really get back to earth until about two or three years after my brother died.”

He applied to the Juilliard School in New York and at 17 became one of the youngest students ever admitted to the acting program there. At Juilliard, he and several classmates wrote and performed “How It All Began,” adapted from the autobiography of the West German urban guerrilla Michael Baumann. In 1981, after Mr. Kilmer graduated, he appeared in a professional production of the play at the Public Theater.

He made his Broadway debut in 1983 in “The Slab Boys,” a drama by John Byrne about young workers in a Scottish carpet factory that also featured Sean Penn and Kevin Bacon. He later played Hamlet at the Colorado Shakespeare Festival in Boulder in 1988 and the male lead, Giovanni, opposite Jeanne Tripplehorn in a Public Theater production of the lurid Jacobean tragedy “’Tis Pity She’s a Whore,” directed by JoAnne Akalaitis, in 1992.

Mr. Kilmer’s marriage to the actress Joanne Whalley, whom he met on the set of Ron Howard’s children’s fantasy film “Willow” (1988), ended in divorce. His survivors include their children, Mercedes and Jack. Mr. Kilmer lived on a ranch near Santa Fe for many years and once pondered a run for governor of New Mexico.

Mr. Kilmer’s other significant film credits include “The Island of Dr. Moreau” (1996), a horror movie based on an early novel by H.G. Wells; “Wonderland” (2003), a murder story based on a true crime in which he played the pornography star John Holmes; and “Twixt” (2011), directed by Francis Ford Coppola, about a horror writer whose book tour takes him to a creepy town haunted by a years-ago murder of children.

Like his fellow actor Hal Holbrook, Mr. Kilmer had a longstanding fascination with Mark Twain, and he spent many years researching and writing a one-man play, “Citizen Twain,” which he began performing around the country in 2010. (Mr. Kilmer, who had trouble managing his weight, gave his interest in Twain credit for helping him slim down at last.)

He also appeared as Twain in a 2014 film adaptation of Twain’s work, “Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn,” and he planned to direct and star in a film he wrote about Twain and Mary Baker Eddy, the woman who founded Christian Science, whom Twain repeatedly criticized. Mr. Kilmer was a Christian Scientist.

In 2021, Mr. Kilmer was the subject of “Val,” a documentary about him based on decades of archival footage. His children were associate producers, and his son Jack was the narrator. The film won several awards, including a Critics Choice Award for best historical or biographical documentary.

In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter in 2012, Mr. Kilmer spoke about his absence from mainstream Hollywood for a decade or more and acknowledged that his career arc had been unusual. He had other interests, he said; he wanted to hang out with his kids.

“I don’t have any regrets,” he said, adding: “It’s an adage but it’s kind of true: Once you’re a star, you’re always a star; it’s just what level?”
 
Ice-Man, The Saint, Doc Holliday...

Val Edward Kilmer, R.i.P
(December 31, 1959 – April 1, 2025)

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Val Kilmer, star of ‘Top Gun’ and ‘The Doors,’ dies at 65​


Actor Val Kilmer has reportedly died of pneumonia.


Val Kilmer, a character actor as famous for his idiosyncrasies as he was for his widely lauded performances in hit films such as “Top Gun,” “Tombstone” and “Batman Forever,” has died at age 65.

A devout Christian Scientist who eschewed traditional medical treatment, Kilmer died Tuesday in Los Angeles, according to the New York Times. The actor’s daughter, Mercedes Kilmer, told the newspaper the cause of death was pneumonia. Kilmer had been treated for throat cancer, a procedure that largely left him voiceless. He said in 2021 that he was cancer-free.

The actor rose to fame in the 1980s as a Julliard-trained prodigy with leading-man potential on par with his “Top Gun” co-star Tom Cruise. At his peak, he courted Cher and Cindy Crawford, made $6 million per movie and earned a reputation for being all but impossible to work with.

Kilmer was exacting about his work, ambivalent about fame and disinclined to spend much time with the press. After his triumphant portrayal of Jim Morrison in Oliver Stone’s 1991 biopic “The Doors,” he moved to a vast New Mexico ranch where he rode horses, raised buffalo and wrote poetry.

On set, it was said he could be petulant and exhausting, an attitude that alienated directors and his co-stars, including Marlon Brando on the set of “The Island of Dr. Moreau.”

After director Joel Schumacher wrapped up “Batman Forever,” he said, “I don’t like Val Kilmer, I don’t like his work ethic, and I don’t want to be associated with him ever again.”

Kilmer’s reputation was such that the starring roles dwindled in the late 2000s after his last critically acclaimed lead performance, in the 2005 comedy “Kiss Kiss Bang Bang” opposite Robert Downey Jr.


Plagued by the Internal Revenue Service, disgruntled neighbors and bad PR, Kilmer had to sell his ranch to pay back taxes and overdue child support. After that, he devoted himself over the course of a decade to “Citizen Twain,” a touring one-man show that he wrote, directed and starred in as a resurrected Mark Twain. He took the show to more than 30 cities over the years.

Largely at the insistence of Tom Cruise, Kilmer reprised his role as Tom “Iceman” Kazansky in “Top Gun: Maverick.” It was the highest-grossing film of 2022 and generally applauded by critics. Though he had to use AI-based dubbing technology to speak his lines, his presence was enough for fans.

“In one fictional moment, he gives us something unmistakably, irreducibly real, partly by puncturing the fantasy of human invincibility that his co-star has never stopped trying to sell,” Times film critic Justin Chang said of Kilmer’s performance.


Born Dec. 31, 1959, in Los Angeles, Kilmer grew up in Chatsworth, one of three brothers. His Texas-born father was an industrialist and a San Fernando Valley real estate developer. His mother was from a Swedish family. His parents divorced when he was 9, and Kilmer and his brothers lived with their father.

As a boy, Kilmer performed in school plays and appeared in TV commercials. At 16, he was accepted to the Julliard drama program. But the night before he left for New York, his youngest brother had a seizure and fell in the family’s backyard pool and drowned. Kilmer went from his brother’s funeral straight to acting school. He said he never fully recovered from the loss.

In New York, Kilmer appeared off-Broadway with Kevin Bacon and Sean Penn in the 1983 play “The Slab Boys.” He made his TV debut in an “ABC Afterschool Special” about drunk driving, opposite a young Michelle Pfeiffer. Later, he self-published a book of poetry inspired by her, copies of which now sell for $400.

Even early in his film career, Kilmer’s choices were versatile and eccentric. He turned down a role in Francis Ford Coppola’s beloved 1983 adaptation of “The Outsiders” because he was committed to a play. He turned down David Lynch’s offer of a role in “Blue Velvet.”

Instead, he made his film debut as a 1950s rock star in the 1984 spy movie spoof “Top Secret!” and released an album covering the film’s songs. Then, without a word, he disappeared for more than a year to go backpacking around Europe.

When he returned, Kilmer broke through as Tom Cruise’s rival naval pilot in the 1986 hit “Top Gun.” He followed that by playing a disgraced knight in Ron Howard’s 1987 fantasy “Willow.” Howard later called Kilmer “childish” and “impossible.”


But it wasn’t until Kilmer portrayed Jim Morrison that he earned movie star status. Stone said at the time that he cast him because he liked his “implied arrogance.”

To prepare, Kilmer spent a year in Sunset Strip clubs dressed as a rock star and memorized the lyrics to all Morrison’s songs. In the film, he performed 15 songs so convincingly the remaining members of the Doors said they couldn’t distinguish his vocals from Morrison’s.

During the next few years, Kilmer was critically lauded as the alcoholic gunfighter Doc Holliday in the 1993 western “Tombstone.” Just before filming began, his father died of cancer.

Michael Biehn said his co-star dove so deeply into his character as Doc Holliday that Val Kilmer ceased to exist.

“People ask me what it’s like to work with Val Kilmer. I don’t know. Never met him. Never shook his hand. I know Doc Holliday, but I don’t know Kilmer.”

In 1995, Kilmer starred as the superhero in “Batman Forever,” which grossed $336 million. But later, director Schumacher called him “one of the most psychologically troubled people I’ve ever worked with.” That same year, he earned praise as Robert De Niro’s henchman in Michael Mann’s crime drama “Heat.”


But Kilmer’s reputation never fully recovered after the 1996 moviemaking disaster “The Island of Dr. Moreau.” Both directors of that film vowed never to work with him again.

Kilmer continued to appear in a range of films but mostly in cameos and minor roles. In 2020, he published his memoir, “I’m Your Huckleberry,” a raw and candid journey through the extremes of his life. The Washington Post described it as “a zigzaggging ride through Kilmer’s distinctive life and career, penned by a spiritual storyteller with no qualms about indulging in his eccentricities.”

He addressed his tattered reputation head on in the bestseller.

“In an unflinching attempt to empower directors, actors and other collaborators to honor the truth and essence of each project, an attempt to breathe Suzukian life into a myriad of Hollywood moments, I had been deemed difficult and alienated the head of every major studio,” he wrote.

He also opened Kamp Kilmer, an artistic collective in Hollywood that provided space and company for poets, painters, musicians and filmmakers. He often started and ended his days at the studio on Melrose Avenue.

“With little voice, my creative juices were boiling over and pouring out of me,” Kilmer wrote on the collective’s website. “I started creating again, painting, writing anything I could. I felt the art healing me.”

Kilmer’s survivors include daughter Mercedes and son Jack.

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RIP
I watched Tombstone the other day, Val's Doc Holiday easily outshines both the MC and the main antagonist!
 
Yew...he smashed it as the feverish, whisky shot glass spinning Doc.

“His rendition of Doc Holliday in Tombstone was what every actor dreams of achieving. So many wonderful performances. Sad to lose him so soon. RIP Val Kilmer.”
- James Woods

He shined in 'Heat' too.

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Yew...he smashed it as the feverish, whisky shot glass spinning Doc.

“His rendition of Doc Holliday in Tombstone was what every actor dreams of achieving. So many wonderful performances. Sad to lose him so soon. RIP Val Kilmer.”
- James Woods

He shined in 'Heat' too.

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Heat is one of my favorite movies! RIP Val!
 

Val Kilmer, Film Star Who Played Batman and Jim Morrison, Dies at 65​

A wide-ranging leading man who earned critical praise, he was known to be charismatic but unpredictable. At one point he dropped out of Hollywood for a decade.

A man with a suit and dark shirt sit son a red bench and leans his arm on the side of it.

Val Kilmer posing for a portrait in Nashville in 2014.Credit...Mark Humphrey/Associated Press
By Bruce Weber
Published April 1, 2025Updated April 2, 2025, 12:28 a.m. ET
Val Kilmer, a homegrown Hollywood actor who tasted leading-man stardom as Jim Morrison and Batman, but whose protean gifts and elusive personality also made him a high-profile supporting player, died on Tuesday in Los Angeles. He was 65.

The cause was pneumonia, said his daughter, Mercedes Kilmer. Mr. Kilmer was diagnosed with throat cancer in 2014 and later recovered, she said.

Tall and handsome in a rock-star sort of way, Mr. Kilmer was in fact cast as a rocker a handful of times early in his career, when he seemed destined for blockbuster success. He made his feature debut in a slapstick Cold War spy-movie spoof, “Top Secret!” (1984), in which he starred as a crowd-pleasing, hip-shaking American singer in Berlin unwittingly involved in an East German plot to reunify the country.

He gave a vividly stylized performance as Morrison, the emblem of psychedelic sensuality, in Oliver Stone’s “The Doors” (1991), and he played the cameo role of Mentor — an advice-giving Elvis as imagined by the film’s antiheroic protagonist, played by Christian Slater — in “True Romance” (1993), a violent drug-chase caper written by Quentin Tarantino and directed by Tony Scott.

Mr. Kilmer had top billing (ahead of Sam Shepard) in “Thunderheart” (1992), playing an unseasoned F.B.I. agent investigating a murder on a South Dakota Indian reservation, and in “The Saint” (1997), a thriller about a debonair, resourceful thief playing cat-and-mouse with the Russian mob. Most famously, perhaps, between Michael Keaton and George Clooney he inhabited the title role (and the batsuit) in “Batman Forever” (1995), doing battle in Gotham City with Two-Face (Tommy Lee Jones) and the Riddler (Jim Carrey), though neither Mr. Kilmer nor the film were viewed as stellar representatives of the Batman franchise.

“Serious audiences will be less interested than ever in what’s under Batman’s cape or cowl,” Janet Maslin wrote in The New York Times. “There’s not much to contemplate here beyond the spectacle of gimmicky props and the kitsch of good actors (all of whom have lately done better work elsewhere) dressed for a red-hot Halloween.”

But by then another, perhaps more interesting, strain of Mr. Kilmer’s career had developed. In 1986, Mr. Scott cast him in his first big-budget film, “Top Gun” (1986), the testosterone-fueled adventure drama about Navy fighter pilots in training, in which Mr. Kilmer played the cool, cocky rival to the film’s star, Tom Cruise. It was a role that set a precedent for several of Mr. Kilmer’s other prominent appearances as a co-star or a member of a starry ensemble. He reprised it in a brief cameo in the film’s 2022 sequel, “Top Gun: Maverick.”

He played the urbane, profligate gunslinger Doc Holliday in “Tombstone” (1993), a bloody western, alongside Kurt Russell, Sam Elliott and Bill Paxton as Wyatt, Virgil and Morgan Earp. He was part of a robbery gang in “Heat” (1995), a contemporary urban “High Noon”-ish tale that was a vehicle for Robert De Niro as the mastermind of a heist and Al Pacino as the cop who chases him down. He was a co-star, billed beneath Michael Douglas, in “The Ghost and the Darkness” (1996), a period piece about lion hunting set in late 19th century Africa. In “Pollock” (2000), starring Ed Harris as the painter Jackson Pollock, he was a fellow artist, Willem de Kooning. He played Philip of Macedon, the father of Alexander the Great (Colin Farrell), in Oliver Stone’s grandiose epic “Alexander” (2004).

Throughout his career Mr. Kilmer often left an impression, with movie viewers as well as moviemakers, of unpredictability.

“Most actors recognize there’s something different in Val than meets the eye,” Mr. Stone said in a 2007 interview for a segment of the television series “Biography.” David Mamet, the playwright and screenwriter who directed Mr. Kilmer in the political thriller “Spartan” (2004), added, “What Val has as an actor is something that the really, really great actors have, which is they make everything sound like an improvisation.”

On the screen, he was both charismatic and curiosity-piquing, an actor who didn’t let his characters give emotional clues away easily. Off the screen, he had his share of disagreements, especially early in his career, when he earned a reputation for surliness and self-involvement. A 1996 cover article about him in Entertainment Weekly was titled “The Man Hollywood Loves to Hate.”

“He offended people by being hard to understand,” said Mr. Stone, one of several people over the years who said Mr. Kilmer turned them off before turning them back on again. Robert Downey Jr., who co-starred with Mr. Kilmer in the wry 2005 murder mystery “Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,” acknowledged in the “Biography” segment that he couldn’t stand him when they first met, though they eventually became great friends.

“I’m sure this can’t be news to you that he’s chronically eccentric,” Mr. Downey said.

Val Edward Kilmer was born in Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 1959, and grew up in the Chatsworth neighborhood in the far northwest part of the city, where his neighbors were Roy Rogers and Dale Evans and his high school classmates were Kevin Spacey and Mare Winningham. His father, Eugene, a real estate developer, and his mother, the former Gladys Ekstadt, divorced when Val was 9. His younger brother Wesley drowned in a swimming pool in 1977, an event that haunted Mr. Kilmer for years afterward.

His memories of that loss were at the center of his performance in “The Salton Sea” (2002), about a man driven by guilt and seeking redemption after witnessing the murder of his wife and being unable to save her. “There are several points in the movie where the guy just can’t go on,” Mr. Kilmer said in an interview with The New York Times in 2002. “I didn’t really get back to earth until about two or three years after my brother died.”

He applied to the Juilliard School in New York and at 17 became one of the youngest students ever admitted to the acting program there. At Juilliard, he and several classmates wrote and performed “How It All Began,” adapted from the autobiography of the West German urban guerrilla Michael Baumann. In 1981, after Mr. Kilmer graduated, he appeared in a professional production of the play at the Public Theater.

He made his Broadway debut in 1983 in “The Slab Boys,” a drama by John Byrne about young workers in a Scottish carpet factory that also featured Sean Penn and Kevin Bacon. He later played Hamlet at the Colorado Shakespeare Festival in Boulder in 1988 and the male lead, Giovanni, opposite Jeanne Tripplehorn in a Public Theater production of the lurid Jacobean tragedy “’Tis Pity She’s a Whore,” directed by JoAnne Akalaitis, in 1992.

Mr. Kilmer’s marriage to the actress Joanne Whalley, whom he met on the set of Ron Howard’s children’s fantasy film “Willow” (1988), ended in divorce. His survivors include their children, Mercedes and Jack. Mr. Kilmer lived on a ranch near Santa Fe for many years and once pondered a run for governor of New Mexico.

Mr. Kilmer’s other significant film credits include “The Island of Dr. Moreau” (1996), a horror movie based on an early novel by H.G. Wells; “Wonderland” (2003), a murder story based on a true crime in which he played the pornography star John Holmes; and “Twixt” (2011), directed by Francis Ford Coppola, about a horror writer whose book tour takes him to a creepy town haunted by a years-ago murder of children.

Like his fellow actor Hal Holbrook, Mr. Kilmer had a longstanding fascination with Mark Twain, and he spent many years researching and writing a one-man play, “Citizen Twain,” which he began performing around the country in 2010. (Mr. Kilmer, who had trouble managing his weight, gave his interest in Twain credit for helping him slim down at last.)

He also appeared as Twain in a 2014 film adaptation of Twain’s work, “Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn,” and he planned to direct and star in a film he wrote about Twain and Mary Baker Eddy, the woman who founded Christian Science, whom Twain repeatedly criticized. Mr. Kilmer was a Christian Scientist.

In 2021, Mr. Kilmer was the subject of “Val,” a documentary about him based on decades of archival footage. His children were associate producers, and his son Jack was the narrator. The film won several awards, including a Critics Choice Award for best historical or biographical documentary.

In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter in 2012, Mr. Kilmer spoke about his absence from mainstream Hollywood for a decade or more and acknowledged that his career arc had been unusual. He had other interests, he said; he wanted to hang out with his kids.

“I don’t have any regrets,” he said, adding: “It’s an adage but it’s kind of true: Once you’re a star, you’re always a star; it’s just what level?”

I regret to say the first thing I saw him in was Batman Forever, but I was a kid in the 1990s. It happens. Didn't realize there was a modernish update to Island of Dr. Moreau.





Last film I watched was Cabaret, which had a melancholy story despite the fun music. My....fourth or fifth Fosse musical.
 
RIP Madmartigan :sad:

He also stole the classic Tombstone from Kurt Russell in every scene he was in.

His inclusion in Top Gun Maverick just becomes that much more emotional now.
 
The first Val Kilmer's movie I saw while paying attention to it was Jim Morrison's biopic, I was in my late teens and I had a best of the Doors cd, which I adored,...I also had hair:), long and all...which prompted my peers to make me play Jesus at a church play, man those where weird fun times!:crazyeye:
 
Police Squad, the new version -


Only one man has the particular set of skills... to lead Police Squad and save the world! Lt. Frank Drebin Jr. (Liam Neeson) follows in his father's footsteps in THE NAKED GUN, directed by Akiva Schaffer (Saturday Night Live, Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping) and from producer Seth MacFarlane (Ted, Family Guy). Joining the case are cast Pamela Anderson, Paul Walter Hauser, CCH Pounder, Kevin Durand, Cody Rhodes, Liza Koshy, Eddie Yu, with Danny Huston.
 
Yes, I saw that trailer.
Impressive that Liam still has this kind of energy, and good for him :)
Not sure about the movie - and the OJ bit was too cringe ^^
(that said, I never was a fan of the old movie/tv show either)
 

Lithgow terrorizing (other) old people.
It wasn't bad, just not good either. Still, for an indie production it was ok. Geoffrey Rush is the other main name here.
 
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Snatch. 2000. British crime drama about ....different criminal groups trying to get ahold of a diamond? Brad Pitt is in it with a dialect even more obscure than whatever that attempt at Appalachian was in Inglourious Basterds.

La Cage aux Folles, 1978. A drag night club owner's son decides he wants to get married: his intended is the daughter of a prominent conservative French politician. Said club owner must somehow convince the politican that he's quite respectable, thank you, nevermind the shrieking in the background. I've seen The Birdcage before but had forgotten most of the plot. Quite the comedy.
 
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