Which "free" great people are actually free?

ilikepie333

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So I've been looking around and found out that while some "free" great people are actually free, some are not so "free" ie. increases the cost of the next one.

I'm pretty sure all Mayan Long Count GP's are "not so free", but am not sure about anything else.

Therefore I'd like to set up a list (please add to this if you know one any more)

Free GP:
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Not so free GP:
Mayan Long Count

Still needed:
All SP GP
Babylon's Writing GS
Venice's Optics MoV
 
Its pretty simple:

every ability from a certian leader that gives a great person when you reach a certain technology is free
So babylon , venice great person upon reaching a technology are free.
Except the maya because you can choose it and happens more then once

Great people who spawn as soon as you complete a wonder (note you can't choose the great person )
The great scientist from porcelain tower
the great artist from ufizi
the great writer from the global theater
the great musican from broudway
are all free.
However great person you choose from the leaidng tower of piza isn't free (because you can choose it )

Social policy :
The person you get from the liberty finisher is not free because you can choose which one.
The great artist from aesthetics doesn't increase the cost
The great general from honor doesn't increase the cost
 
I'd like to know this too? What about the Liberty finisher? Or the Leaning Tower? Or the patronage finisher?
 
I'd like to know this too? What about the Liberty finisher? Or the Leaning Tower? Or the patronage finisher?


Its pretty simple:

every ability from a certian leader that gives a great person when you reach a certain technology is free
So babylon , venice great person upon reaching a technology are free.
Except the maya because you can choose it and happens more then once

Great people who spawn as soon as you complete a wonder (note you can't choose the great person )
The great scientist from porcelain tower
the great artist from ufizi
the great writer from the global theater
the great musican from broudway
are all free.
However great person you choose from the leaidng tower of piza isn't free (because you can choose it )

Social policy :
The person you get from the liberty finisher is not free because you can choose which one.All the others are free like :
The great artist from aesthetics doesn't increase the cost
All the great people you get from city state are free if you complete patronage
The great general from honor doesn't increase the cost
Buying great people faith doesn't increase the cost (complete certain social policy)
 
All great people you do not choose from a list are free.

All great people you choose from a list increase the cost of next one.

???
 
All great people you do not choose from a list are free.

All great people you choose from a list increase the cost of next one.

???

I don't know thats the reason but it seems like that each time you can pick one
with leaders (paca)l with wonders its the leading tower or the social policies its the liberty tree it increases the cost
 
So in a summary.

Anytime YOU have the power to specify which Great Person you want. It increases the cost of the next one.
 
I forgot to mention the most important increase of great people cost :

If you settle a city it increase the cosst for great people .

And if you anex a captured city it increases the cost for great people

puppets don't 't increase the cost of great people
 
Except buying GP with faith i haven't seen it increase the cost of great people at all .

Yes, but that's sort of offset by the increase in the the Faith cost after each purchase. Still, interesting information about what GPs do and do not increase the cost of the next one.
 
In MY experience the only GP spawned which do not increase the cost of the next ones are those purchased with FAITH.

ALL those which are spawned by wonders are NOT free. Note that I have not played as Babylon so I wouldn't know about those. I play marathon speed, so increases are quite noticeable if I choose to look.
 
Two more notes:

* The increase in cost of great people from extra cities doesn't apply to specialist point costs or faith costs. In other words, it only applies to great generals and admirals, as far as I can tell.

* Great Prophets that are chosen increase the cost of GE, GS and GM. (IMHO a bug)
 
In MY experience the only GP spawned which do not increase the cost of the next ones are those purchased with FAITH.

ALL those which are spawned by wonders are NOT free. Note that I have not played as Babylon so I wouldn't know about those. I play marathon speed, so increases are quite noticeable if I choose to look.

Pretty sure that the great scientist from the Porcelain Tower and the great artist from ufusi /great musican broudway / great writer global theater are free
 
I forgot to mention the most important increase of great people cost :

If you settle a city it increase the cosst for great people .

And if you anex a captured city it increases the cost for great people

puppets don't 't increase the cost of great people

This is incorrect. The tool tip is wrong and was never updated
 
Its pretty simple:

every ability from a certian leader that gives a great person when you reach a certain technology is free
So babylon , venice great person upon reaching a technology are free.
Except the maya because you can choose it and happens more then once

Great people who spawn as soon as you complete a wonder (note you can't choose the great person )
The great scientist from porcelain tower
the great artist from ufizi
the great writer from the global theater
the great musican from broudway
are all free.
However great person you choose from the leaidng tower of piza isn't free (because you can choose it )

Social policy :
The person you get from the liberty finisher is not free because you can choose which one.All the others are free like :
The great artist from aesthetics doesn't increase the cost
All the great people you get from city state are free if you complete patronage
The great general from honor doesn't increase the cost
Buying great people faith doesn't increase the cost (complete certain social policy)

This list is not entirely correct. Most importantly, it is not the ability to choose that affects whether a GP increases the cost of further GPs -- it is more variable than that. Also, remember that Great Scientists, Great Merchants and Great Engineers are on a common counter.

Here is a better list (others will undoubtedly point out omitted items):

Social Policies/Tenets

Liberty finisher - any Great Person chosen increases cost of next (with GS/GM/GE on same counter, as noted above)

Honor's Warrior Code - free Great General increases cost of next GG

Piety finisher - free Great Prophet does not increase cost of next

Exploration's navigation School - free Great Admiral increases cost of next GAdm

Aesthetics' Artistic Genius - free Great Artist increases cost of next GA

Patronage finisher - any Great Person received from a CS ally increases cost of next (with GS/GM/GE on same counter)

Order's Spaceflight Pioneers tenet - free Great Engineer and Great Scientist increase cost of next GS/GE/GM by 200

Wonders

Hagia Sophia - free Great Prophet increases cost of next

Leaning Tower of Pisa - any free Great Person chosen increases cost of next (with GS/GM/GE on same counter)

Globe Theater - free Great Writer increases cost of next GW

Uffizi - free Great Artist increases cost of next GA

Louvre - free Great Artist increases cost of next GA

Broadway - free Great Musician increase cost of next GM

Porcelain Tower - free Great Scientist increases cost of next GA/GE/GM

Hubble - 2 free Great Scientists increase cost of next GS/GE/GM by 200

Brandenburg Gate - free GG does not increase cost of next GG

Faith Purchases

All faith-purchased Great Persons are on separate counters and increase the faith cost of the next Great Person of the same counter, but do not increase the Great Person Points cost of the next Great Person

Civs

Babylon - Great Scientist on researching Writing does not increase cost of next GS/GE/GM

Venice - Great Merchant of Venice on researching Optics does not increase cost of next GM/GS/GE

Venice - Great Merchant of Venice on taking Liberty's Citizenship policy increases cost of next GM/GS/GE

Maya - Long-Count GS/GE/GM increases next GS/GE/GM cost, Long-Count Great Prophet increases cost of next Great Prophet AND cost of next GS/GE/GM, Long-Count Great Artist, Great Writer and Great Musician increases cost of next GWAM of the same category (i.e., GA increases cost of next GA, etc.), and Long-Count GG and GAdm increase the costs of the next GG and GAdm, respectively.
 
This list is not entirely correct. Most importantly, it is not the ability to choose that affects whether a GP increases the cost of further GPs -- it is more variable than that. Also, remember that Great Scientists, Great Merchants and Great Engineers are on a common counter.

Here is a better list (others will undoubtedly point out omitted items):

Social Policies/Tenets

Liberty finisher - any Great Person chosen increases cost of next (with GS/GM/GE on same counter, as noted above)

Honor's Warrior Code - free Great General increases cost of next GG

Piety finisher - free Great Prophet does not increase cost of next

Exploration's navigation School - free Great Admiral increases cost of next GAdm

Aesthetics' Artistic Genius - free Great Artist increases cost of next GA

Patronage finisher - any Great Person received from a CS ally increases cost of next (with GS/GM/GE on same counter)

Order's Spaceflight Pioneers tenet - free Great Engineer and Great Scientist increase cost of next GS/GE/GM by 200

Wonders

Hagia Sophia - free Great Prophet increases cost of next

Leaning Tower of Pisa - any free Great Person chosen increases cost of next (with GS/GM/GE on same counter)

Globe Theater - free Great Writer increases cost of next GW

Uffizi - free Great Artist increases cost of next GA

Louvre - free Great Artist increases cost of next GA

Broadway - free Great Musician increase cost of next GM

Porcelain Tower - free Great Scientist increases cost of next GA/GE/GM

Hubble - 2 free Great Scientists increase cost of next GS/GE/GM by 200

Brandenburg Gate - free GG does not increase cost of next GG

Faith Purchases

All faith-purchased Great Persons are on separate counters and increase the faith cost of the next Great Person of the same counter, but do not increase the Great Person Points cost of the next Great Person

Civs

Babylon - Great Scientist on researching Writing does not increase cost of next GS/GE/GM

Venice - Great Merchant of Venice on researching Optics does not increase cost of next GM/GS/GE

Venice - Great Merchant of Venice on taking Liberty's Citizenship policy increases cost of next GM/GS/GE

Maya - Long-Count GS/GE/GM increases next GS/GE/GM cost, Long-Count Great Prophet increases cost of next Great Prophet AND cost of next GS/GE/GM, Long-Count Great Artist, Great Writer and Great Musician increases cost of next GWAM of the same category (i.e., GA increases cost of next GA, etc.), and Long-Count GG and GAdm increase the costs of the next GG and GAdm, respectively.


So basicly only the civs ability is free except maya
 
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