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Which is a more moral profession?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Narz, Nov 18, 2011.

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Which is the more righteous profession?

  1. Porn Star

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  2. Modern Solidier

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  1. Rulle_Kebab

    Rulle_Kebab Warlord

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    It is a silly poll...
    The only soldier that could be more moral than a porn star would be a pacifist soldier...
     
  2. Flying Pig

    Flying Pig Utrinque Paratus Moderator

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    Ah, fair point. Took an extra jump of logic then - I'm assuming that you don't think that being a porn star is not an immoral profession? If it is, then the argument's settled.
     
  3. aelf

    aelf Ashen One

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    I don't understand the question.

    I don't think being a porn star or a soldier is inherently immoral. As a whole, taking into account what people actually do, both professions have their positives and negatives, and it's not clear to me which is better.
     
  4. Yeekim

    Yeekim Deity

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    Every last one of them has been moral.
    Spoiler :
    At least for the party immorally attacked.
     
  5. Atlas14

    Atlas14 "Sophomoric Troll Master"

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    By you suggesting that, you admit that soldiers willingly and knowingly join a profession in which there is going to be a very high likelihood of them being asked to commit immoral actions, by nature of who is command of them.

    Really, when was the most recent war in which America needed to actively use force in self defense to protect the homeland? 1812...Just about 200 years ago.

    Not very good odds of signing up willy nilly for the military and expecting to be used in a manner that reflects consistent morality.



    Does Jesus know you're using phallic metaphors?
     
  6. kochman

    kochman Deity

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    In a representative republic, we hope that those put in charge are in a better position to make decisions on behalf of the nation... knowing that we will not have full knowledge. Does this get abused? Certainly, but that doesn't mean the soldier is a sell out.

    The last time the USA had to defend its lands in a war, WW2... The Japanese invaded the US, not the other way around. Hitler, being a maniac, decided to get us involved. Before that we had the Mexican American War.

    When I joined the military, the major threat was gone... that being the USSR. My father was in the military ready to combat them if need be...
    I didn't think we would get involved in two very questionable wars, personally.
     
  7. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Emperor

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    I don't really consider pearl harbor an invasion. It was a bombing. And I'll tell you, I think they got the short end of the 'bombing' stick.
     
  8. NickyJ

    NickyJ Retired Narrator

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    Umm, attacking us is, you know, attacking us. You really don't expect the U.S. to roll over and die, do you?
     
  9. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Emperor

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    Yes. It is. I agree. What I'm saying is that being bombed and being invaded are two very different things.
     
  10. CELTICEMPIRE

    CELTICEMPIRE Zulu Conqueror

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    So the US should have sent Japan a letter condemning the attacks, and let the league of nations put restrictions on Japan?
     
  11. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Emperor

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    No, I wasn't saying the U.S was wrong, I was saying that we weren't invaded.
     
  12. Camikaze

    Camikaze Administrator Administrator

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    That doesn't follow at all from what is being said. The discussion as to whether Pearl Harbour constitutes an invasion or not is a definitional one. It offers no judgement as to the response. The morality of American actions (and, to drag this back on-topic, the morality of soldiers' actions) is entirely independent of whether or not we call it an invasion or an attack (or at least, should be).

    (Crosspost)
     
  13. Berzerker

    Berzerker Deity

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    actually the Japanese did invade the Alaskan territory
     
  14. MjM

    MjM Deity

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    Killing people is less moral than having sex.

    No matter how you justify it.
     
  15. SS-18 ICBM

    SS-18 ICBM Oscillator

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    Which one performs search and rescue operations in peace time?
     
  16. Ayn Rand

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    I had to vote porn star. I figure if we all became soldiers and had a World War it would be awful. But if we all became porn stars and had a World orgy it might not be so bad ;)
     
  17. Narz

    Narz keeping it real

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    Hmm, I think I saw a movie about that once. The heroines found a man trapped under an avalanche & had to nurse him back to life... literally. Milky Mountain I think it was called.
     
  18. Lone Wolf

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    Not necessarily. There's also the "plague on both your houses" approach.
     
  19. kochman

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    Um, the first attack was a bombing, to open the gates... they immediately followed up with land invasions all over the Pacific Rim, including parts of Alaska.
     
  20. strijder20

    strijder20 Wallowing in irony

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    I don't consider this an invasion, not even an attack, I just see it as Japan taking the initiative in the inevitable war. America was already watching how it's allies were getting slightly pummeled in the East. If they didn't want to have a war with Reich and allies, that would be gruesome and betrayal. And as far as I know, they did prepare (and so did Japan) for a Japanese-American war. Why do you think there were that many ships in Hawaii, which is about as far from Germany as it can be?
    I see an invasion as an unexpected takeover of enemy lands, not as small successes in a long-expected war. What do you think? Do you think the Japanese were planning to take over the U.S.A?
    You could even call it self-defense from Japan, as the U.S.A were clearly planning for war with Japan (a right war, don't get me wrong) and the Japanese saw a perfect opportunity to increase their winning chance.
     

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