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Which modmod would you recommend for a PBEM?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Fall from Heaven' started by Imp. Knoedel, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    See title. Is Vanilla good enough or should we use something else? If yes, what? I'd like it to be pretty close to basic FFH as that's complex enough as it is for newcomers, so no extra civs and such, but improvements to balance and bugfixes are very welcome.
     
  2. [to_xp]Gekko

    [to_xp]Gekko QCT junkie

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    Extramodmod, it has the better AI from MNAI and the much better game balance from Eitb, without changing the gameplay too much.
     
  3. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    I'm still not convinced that the MNAI AI is actually to my taste, but I seem to be in the minority with my opinion that opportunistic psychopathic warmongering is not equal to quality.
     
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    [to_xp]Gekko QCT junkie

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    next update is going to tone down their aggressive inclinations :D
     
  5. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    Very good, when will that be?
     
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    [to_xp]Gekko QCT junkie

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    new MNAI should come out by the end of the month, hopefully Extramodmod will be updated soon after that :D
     
  7. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    Btw, would you like to join aforementioned game?
     
  8. [to_xp]Gekko

    [to_xp]Gekko QCT junkie

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    I'm not playing ffh2 at the moment, but I've got a friend who might be interested... what's your timezone?
     
  9. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    ...

    Timezones are irrelevant for PBEMs, believe me.
     
  10. BobCW

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    If your PBEM is against humans only, play EitB- it's made with PBEM balance in mind and the input of over a dozen FFH MP veterans.


    If you're going to have AI civs included, probably EMM. I've never played it before, but the AI in EitB isn't much better than regular FFH (which is to say, terrible).


    Timezone coordination is absolutely vital for PBEMs. Having players ordered without regard for playing slot availability will reduce the pace from a turn a day (typically the ideal) to a couple a week.
     
  11. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    That works nicely in theory darling, but my two years experience says otherwise.
     
  12. Calavente

    Calavente Richard's voice

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    it's so fun to read that adressed to Realms-Beyond/EitB players ^^
    (which I am not... but BobCW is one )
     
  13. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    1 day turn rotations are nothing but an utopian fever dream, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
     
  14. BobCW

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    Heh. You're welcome to try starting or joining a PBEM at RB if you'd like to learn how to run a MP game.


    I'd have to ask that you keep the attitude at home though. Being both condescending and arrogantly wrong isn't going to fly beyond this board. Especially if you were the one asking for advice in the first place.



    Good luck getting your game running.
     
  15. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    No thank you, I am in plenty good games at CivFanatics. *hrmpfs furiously*

    I am at home.

    ...Thanks I guess?
     
  16. akatosh

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    Have you ever visited Realms Beyond?
     
  17. Imp. Knoedel

    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    Maybe.
     
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    fixed that for ya
     
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    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    You stand corrected.
     
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    Imp. Knoedel Properly Paranoid Proletarian

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    Btw Gekko who is that friend of yours who might be interested?
     

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