Which of these civilizations do you hope to see?

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Krajzen, May 12, 2016.

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Which of these Civilizations would you like to see in civ6?

Poll closed Oct 31, 2016.
  1. Sumer

    83 vote(s)
    34.9%
  2. Phoenicia

    72 vote(s)
    30.3%
  3. Israel

    74 vote(s)
    31.1%
  4. Hungary

    58 vote(s)
    24.4%
  5. Italy/Florence

    65 vote(s)
    27.3%
  6. Timurids

    34 vote(s)
    14.3%
  7. Khazars

    34 vote(s)
    14.3%
  8. Vietnam

    68 vote(s)
    28.6%
  9. Burma

    32 vote(s)
    13.4%
  10. Tibet

    52 vote(s)
    21.8%
  11. Nubia

    43 vote(s)
    18.1%
  12. Swahilli

    39 vote(s)
    16.4%
  13. Kongo

    77 vote(s)
    32.4%
  14. Zimbabwe

    44 vote(s)
    18.5%
  15. Hittites

    59 vote(s)
    24.8%
  16. West-African (Ghana/Ashanti/Benin/Dahomey etc)

    54 vote(s)
    22.7%
  17. Central/South American (other than Maya/Aztec/Inca)

    53 vote(s)
    22.3%
  18. Balkan (Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania etc)

    50 vote(s)
    21.0%
  19. Indian (Mughals/Harappa/Maratha/Chola etc)

    74 vote(s)
    31.1%
  20. North American (Cherokee/Apache/Huron/Haida/Inuit etc)

    79 vote(s)
    33.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. joncnunn

    joncnunn Senior Java Wizard Retired Moderator

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    It's indeed way too late to fix the poll via removing Sumeria & Hittites.

    Thread title and poll name changed to only exclude Civs seen in IV & V.
     
  2. AbsintheRed

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    Well, Gilgamesh disagrees :mischief:
     
  3. nunor

    nunor King

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    Useful link for you: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civilisation
    It'd be great if you checked your facts before correcting others.

    Exactly, Sumer was in Civ4 too. The thread title is still incorrect.
     
  4. fredrikslicer

    fredrikslicer Tailor

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    India:
    Tried to pick a kingdom from each major religion in india

    - Hoysala (Southern Jain/Hindu empire)
    - Chola (One of the most important empires in Indian history as it spread indian culture futher than ever before)
    - Sikh empire (Not the biggest but certainly an interesting one)
    - Mughals (Self explanatory)
    - Pala Empire (Among the last indian buddhist empires

    Southeast asia:
    - Tangoo
    - Pangasian kingdom
    - Lan Xang
    - ayutthaya

    China:
    - All the prominent ones

    Tibet:
    - Turfan Empire
    - Dzungar khanate

    Horde-ish:
    - Golden horde
    - Ilkhanate
    - Timurids
    - Crimea

    North african:
    - Hafsid tunisa
    - Fatimid caliphate
    - Rustamid iamamate

    Arabia:
    -Lakhmids
    -Ghassanids
    -Himyarite kingdom

    Iberia:
    -Al-Andalus
    -Visigoths
     
  5. joncnunn

    joncnunn Senior Java Wizard Retired Moderator

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    Can't very well kick out the civ currently leading the poll, so the title has been changed yet again.
    It's now "Which of these civilizations do you hope to see?"
     
  6. Darth Tribble

    Darth Tribble Friendly Neighborhood Conqueror

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    What if Tibet is a DLC civ like Polynesia is for Civ5?

    Anyway, I voted for Israel (preferably ancient Israel), but I was tempted to pick Phoenicia.
     
  7. Felis Renidens

    Felis Renidens Prince

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    I thought about Phoenicia, but we have Carthage so maybe as a new name for an old civ...
     
  8. daft

    daft The fargone

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    Missing in the original poll are:

    EUROPE:

    Prussia
    Lithuania
    Scotland
    Holy Roman Empire (included in CIV)
    Gauls
    Visigoths/Lombardy
    Vatican/Papal State
    Normandy
    Wends
    Czechs
    Ukraine/Kiyevan Rus'
    Thracians
    Etruscans
    Belgium
    Switzerland
    Ireland
    Wales
    Finland
    Norway/Norse


    Central & South America:

    Nazca
    Tiwanaku
    Moche
    Toltec
    Olmec
    Zapotec
    Gran Colombia
    Argentina
    Cambeba/Omagua
    Arawak
    Mexico


    Africa:

    Ashanti
    South Africa (Mandela as leader)
    Oyo
    Mali (were in civ)

    Seleucids and Parthians, Mitanni, Medes, Lydia (coinage was invented there) from Asia.
    You're also missing Maurya and Kalinga for India.

    Oh yes?
    Then why every game in the series is called CIVILIZATION not CIVILSATION?
    Why is the name of this site: CIVILIZATION FANATICS not CIVILISATION FANATICS?

    Unless both forms are acceptable, you are incorrect by correcting my post.

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    Hello?
    The reason ITALY was never included is obvious:
    Overlapping with Rome on Earth maps.

    Absolutely agree, Etruscans should have made it by now, they were a civilization, unlike the Huns.

    Teutons should be a Unique Unit of Prussia-also regularly omitted from inclusion in the game.


    I do believe that Phoenicia never featured in any vanilla or expansion/complete game of Civilization up to this point.

    To say the least, a big time omission by the developers.
    Phoenicians were brilliant sailors, merchants and explorers.

    Canaan (in middle East) is missing on the poll list as well.
    It was a thriving civilization, with cities such as Jericho and Ai, until the Hebrews arrived and took over the Canaanite lands and cities by brute force, declaring it their "promised land"

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  9. Browd

    Browd Dilettante Administrator

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    Carthage was founded as a Phoenician colony, so there is that.
     
  10. cpm4001

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    Spelling Civilization with a 'z' is the American form (hence why the American game company Firaxis and the American-based forum Civilization Fanatics Center use it), while spelling it with an 's' is the British form (and is so used in most other parts of the world, including amongst non-native/ESL English speakers.) Both spellings are technically valid; they're just regional variants, and so @nunor is completely right in correcting your post.
     
  11. daft

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    A colony which became far more powerful than it's founder nation, hmm, reminds me of America and Britain.

    Carthage never controlled Phoenicia, great cities like Tyre, Sidon and Byblos were Phoenician, Persians or Egyptians (and others) only conquered them later.

    Since Carthage is like America ( a colony which later became independent of it's motherland) and Phoenicia like the old country (not really, because Britain was still very powerful, even though USA had separated from it's grasps) and both are in the game since CI, then why not include the Phoenicians?
     
  12. TheMeInTeam

    TheMeInTeam If A implies B...

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    Because you do so at the expense of several civs that lasted centuries with peak sizes barely smaller than Roman Empire at its height and larger than many civs already included.
     
  13. ldvhl

    ldvhl ніщо

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    So what? If they're interesting and people would like to see them, they should have a shot at being included.
     
  14. TheMeInTeam

    TheMeInTeam If A implies B...

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    Sure, if we go to like 80 civs this time why not.

    Otherwise my point stands. There are better options by any rational criteria beyond preference you could use.
     
  15. moysturfurmer

    moysturfurmer Emperor

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    Sumer
    Gran Colombia
    Canada
    Israel
    Vietnam
    Kongo
    Sioux
    Franks
    & ditch Venice get Italy
     
  16. darko82

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    These results say nothing. Everyone wants something else.
     
  17. AbsintheRed

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    Personal preferences vary way too much to be able to say this.
    If it were up to me, Phoenicia would easily be in the top 30.
    On the other hand Carthage wouldn't be in the top 50, while the USA or any other more modern civ wouldn't even be in the top 100.
     
  18. IkM

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    Khazars is must. There isn't any Jewish civ in game and I believe Khazars would be perfect. One of the most important and interesting Empire in entire history. Full of religious freedom. All who suffered religious oppression by their empire ran and settled Khazar Khaganate.

    Khaganate was Turkish. So, Tengriism was main religion but ruling class converted to Judaism but some soldiers converted to Islam. Some were Christian, Slavic pagan, Norse pagan, buddist and even religious Syncretism was in kingdom.

    So, their UA can be based on religion and trade because they were really good traders. (Jewish power I think :D)
     
  19. TheMeInTeam

    TheMeInTeam If A implies B...

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    That's why I said beyond preference. You need some reasonable criteria to include civs or not include them.

    I made a strong claim: there's nothing you can use besides preference that would consistently include Phoenicia unless the civ pool is large. This claim can be viewed as a challenge; I'm basically saying that I don't believe that posters can come up with criteria that will include Phoenicia without excluding civs in every title or more deserving civs based on their on stated standards.

    If you don't believe me or want to show me I'm wrong, completely scratch preference as a factor and try to come up with that inclusion criteria.

    Aside from the bias in poll design (which is considerable), it does at least show that there isn't an overwhelming preference amongst voters on this forum for one thing. If we had one civ that was 100+ votes in front of #2 some of the noise in the poll would seem pretty trivial.

    But we're not seeing that. That makes using a reasonable criteria set without filling the bottom line in advance more important.
     
  20. m15a

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    I'm still curious to see the set of independent criteria you would use to generate a satisfactory list of civs. (Where independent criteria are criteria that can be applied to every potential civilization without consideration of the placement of other civs on the list.)

    That's not quite a challenge - I don't feel confident either way in whether such a set of criteria can be constructed. But I'd rather see these criteria in practice rather than just accepting such a set exists based on the idea.

    If a good set of criteria can't be listed at all, it's not that valuable a claim to say that such criteria that includes a particular civilization can't be listed.

    And if such a set of criteria can be listed, well, I'm just curious what yours personally would be anyway.
     

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