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Which tech do you oracle?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by Akbarthegreat, Dec 17, 2011.

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Which techs do you oracle?

  1. Metal Casting

    66 vote(s)
    49.6%
  2. Hereditary Rule

    14 vote(s)
    10.5%
  3. Theology

    20 vote(s)
    15.0%
  4. Civil Service

    22 vote(s)
    16.5%
  5. Horseback Riding

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  6. Alphabet

    6 vote(s)
    4.5%
  7. Mathematics

    6 vote(s)
    4.5%
  8. Aesthetics

    5 vote(s)
    3.8%
  9. Code of Laws

    65 vote(s)
    48.9%
  10. Iron Working

    3 vote(s)
    2.3%
  11. Compass

    2 vote(s)
    1.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Akbarthegreat

    Akbarthegreat Angel of Junil

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    Which techs do you oracle?

    I usually take Metal Casting or Hereditary Rule, whichever I need most. But in a recent game as India I managed to take theology, just had to delay the oracle a little. And is oracling machinery/civil service worth the risk?
     
  2. Lunsen

    Lunsen Chieftain

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    I usually oracle Code of Laws. This givves me those lovely courthouses, perhaps a new religion. Even better if you are an organized leader.
     
  3. strijder20

    strijder20 Wallowing in irony

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    CoL, or when I play RFC as the Romans, Machinery.
     
  4. ajsciri4

    ajsciri4 Chieftain

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    Monarchy (HR) because it's easy to have your cities maintain happiness.
     
  5. Marcvs Avrelivs

    Marcvs Avrelivs Warmongering Fool

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    CoL usually; to handle the growing costs of your empire, courthouses are always a must :D

    I also get metal casting whenever I think the forges may be useful early on
     
  6. sydhe

    sydhe King of Kongs

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    Metal Casting, unless I get a Great Merchant first, in which case he'll bulb Metal Casting and I'll use the Oracle for Machinery.
     
  7. Tlalynet

    Tlalynet Chieftain

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    Machinery. That's what I just did last game. Why is Civil service on here but Machinery not?
     
  8. Akbarthegreat

    Akbarthegreat Angel of Junil

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    Oops, I forgot:p.
     
  9. HAND

    HAND Armchair Philosopher

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    Metal Casting myself, though I'll be aiming at Code of Laws if I get the Oracle next time.
     
  10. Undecided

    Undecided Chieftain

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    Depends on the difficulty.
    Most of the time i just oracle CoL. Especially if i'm SPI, PHI or IND with mids.
    MC is highly situational and depends on wheter i'm industrious or not and the mapscript.
    I usually stay away from CS, math, HB, monarchy, IW and compass in a regular game. (= no super start, )
    CS because it's to far down the techtree, the others don't have enough beakers, don't bring any major benefits to the early game or aren't difficult to trade for.
    Would rather oracle aesth than alpha but both aren't the best options imo.
    Machinery sounds interesting, but i've never done that.

    On lower difficulties or high commerce start (or OCCs) CS is always a good choice.
     
  11. obsolete

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    How come isn't fishing on the list???
     
  12. twansalem

    twansalem Chieftain

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    Theology. My insistence on founding Christianity in well over 90% of the games I play is just one of a handful of personal game play quirks that prevents me from advancing past Prince.
     
  13. strijder20

    strijder20 Wallowing in irony

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    Wow, noob? Everyone knows fishing enables the OP and broken workboat, which allows naval exploration beyond limits at 4000 BC! It's forbidden to do so!
    Real pros Oracle Priesthood.
     
  14. oranje willem

    oranje willem Chieftain

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    I see what you did there!
     
  15. Tlalynet

    Tlalynet Chieftain

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    Most of the time if I can get the oracle on a higher level, I've been aiming at Theology since turn 2. Sometimes, if I happen to have marble and don't really need to rush and am playing a water heavy map and have copper and a minable happy resource I'll make a point oracle MC. Thats quite a lot of ifs, but it does happen.

    If I'm not playing on a hard difficulty, I'll generally oracle something like machinery, just to speed up my overall teching.

    I put a really low value on CoL unless I really need the specialist slots...
     
  16. AutomatedTeller

    AutomatedTeller Frequent poster

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    I love me some civil service with oracle.

    Sadly, that's not an option most of the time, so it kind of depends.

    Monarchy is good when happy is scare and no helpful AI are likely to get it for you. Metal Casting is probably best after that. a GM bulb and then machinery sounds great... but it seems difficult to pull off. A philo leader after self-teching CoL and running caste merchants?

    Certainly, self-researching metal casting and oracling machinery can work.
     
  17. Ataxerxes

    Ataxerxes Chieftain

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    It is very situational, depending on level. When I'm building it I just try to figure what I can research now to get a good tech. It seems to change every game. If I can get Theology on a lower level it makes for good trade bait and gets a head start on the AP.

    Monarchy I would only take in isolation. I always seem to see the AI get it quite early and they always seem eager to trade it.
     
  18. obsolete

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    Kick ass! So that's how the deity guys do it!

    I've been doing it in reverse all this time!!!


    I've been thinking, about trying to oracle Mysticism, to you know, get a super-duper head-start on the oracle... and then I can use the priest from the oracle to bulb fishing. What do you think of that?
     
  19. sydhe

    sydhe King of Kongs

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    The great merchant comes from the Great Lighthouse. I usually build the Great Wall, too, and if I have both before Oracle, then there's a chance at getting a merchant (although a great spy is also likely).

    I hadn't thought of choosing a Philosophical leader and building just the Great Lighthouse and getting a guaranteed Great Merchant before I finish Oracle.
     
  20. Tlalynet

    Tlalynet Chieftain

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    I started a religious centric Monarch game, founded Hindi. The oracle wasn't on my radar due to no marble. Zara Yaqob was my next door neighbor and founded Buddhism. Zara is my nemesis player, he causes me headaches in every way when he lives. I'd rather have warmongers or tech whores all around than him. I wanted to get free spreads of Hindi, and his nice central location would spread Budda quick once he got trade. Obviously I had to archer\warrior rush him. Once that was done, lo and behold he had marble in his BFC, and lots of nice trees to chop with the two taken workers.

    I was falling behind in tech (a couple AI where ahead of me) due to the archer rush. I went MC, traded it around for alphabet and backfill to tech parity, and then got a leg up in tech that I lever edged to be the first to currency.

    Since I was still researching writing when the oracle was done MC was really the only viable option. I had gold, and a coastal captial too, so MC was very good.

    Thats my monarch metal casting story :)
     

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