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Which television shows are you watching? Series 4

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  1. thetrooper

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    Stopped watching TWD after S8. There's a chance to jump back in @ S9 on HBO Nordic. Is it worth the time? Had some serious Negan fatigue at the end but I'm still a sucker for post apocalyptic scenarios.
     
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    I have heard that season 9 is "good TWD," and that Negan is a much better character during it. But I don't know if that's Stockholm Syndrome. I abandoned the show shortly after Rick et al set up an ambush and somehow a dozen people with AKs couldn't land a single round.
     
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  3. thecrazyscot

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    I watched a few more episodes of Home Game. The roller derby one was interesting, but the voodoo wrestling one was bizarre. Neither me nor my wife had any idea what was going on, and we're still confused by it.

    We're most of the way through The Last Dance on Netflix, which has been very interesting. Perhaps particularly for me, because I've never followed basketball, and so really missed getting caught up in Jordan Fever during my childhood.
     
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    I largely forgot seasons 3 and 4 of Battlestar Galactica and forgot about the "twist" at the end of S3, and also how much I hated it. The season was fantastic, the best so far despite my distaste of that plot point. But it still eats at me that I hate it. It's just bad. :(

    In the final stretch now.
     
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    Just finished ep 7 of the second season of Doom Patrol. I really like this show. It's set in the DC universe and technically a superhero show but its not. It's more wierd scifi/magic/misfits meshed with comedy and absurdity. They use some relatively decent names to draw you in like Timothy Dalton, Brendan Fraser, Alan Tudyk and Mark Sheppard (Crowley from Supernatural).

    Brendan Fraser plays Brendan Fraser like he always does but he's used perfectly as Cliff Steele, a race car driver who's body was destroyed in an accident and his brain is transplanted into this clunky, almost Steampunk robot body. He uses his over the top voice acting to emote the robot. In flashbacks his "hasn't aged well for Hollywood" body works pretty well portraying the douchebag Cliff was before the accident.

    The second season focuses a lot on Niles Calder's (Dalton) daughter and the amorphous threat her abilities pose to the world but there's a lot of good drama around the other characters. The show doesn't get the recognition it deserves but then again a lot of stuff I like gets lost in the shuffle. I feel like it might suffer the super hero fatigue mallus but it's not really a superhero show so I think that's a real shame.
     
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    The Emmy Awards nominees were announced this morning. Obviously, there's much to complain about. :D

    Outstanding comedy series
    Spoiler :
    "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
    "Dead to Me"
    "The Good Place"
    "Insecure"
    "The Kominsky Method"
    "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel"
    "Schitt's Creek"
    "What We Do in the Shadows"
    No GLOW.

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    Outstanding drama series

    Spoiler :
    "Better Call Saul"
    "The Crown"
    "The Handmaid's Tale"
    "Killing Eve"
    "The Mandalorian"
    "Ozark"
    "Stranger Things"
    "Succession"
    Since this is for shows that aired in 2019, Killing Eve is on here for season 2. I'm surprised The Mandalorian is on here. These awards shows usually pretend sci-fi doesn't exist (yes, The Handmaid's Tale could be called sci-fi, even though I think Atwood doesn't like calling it that, but the awards-nominating snobs probably pretend it isn't). Also, still no GLOW.

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    Outstanding lead actor in a comedy series

    Spoiler :
    Anthony Anderson ("Black-ish")
    Don Cheadle ("Black Monday")
    Ted Danson ("The Good Place")
    Michael Douglas ("The Kominsky Method")
    Eugene Levy ("Schitt's Creek")
    Ramy Youssef ("Ramy")
    No Mark Maron for GLOW. I'm sensing a pattern here.

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    Outstanding lead actress in a comedy series

    Spoiler :
    Christina Applegate ("Dead to Me")
    Rachel Brosnahan ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")
    Linda Cardellini ("Dead to Me")
    Catherine O'Hara ("Schitt's Creek")
    Issa Rae ("Insecure")
    Tracee Ellis Ross ("Black-ish")
    No Alison Brie for GLOW. No Darcy Carden for The Good Place. Alright, that's it. Burn it down. Burn it all down.

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    Outstanding lead actor in a drama series

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    Jason Bateman ("Ozark")
    Sterling K. Brown ("This Is Us")
    Steve Carell ("The Morning Show")
    Brian Cox ("Succession")
    Billy Porter ("Pose")
    Jeremy Strong ("Succession")
    I haven't seen a single one of these.

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    Outstanding lead actress in a drama series

    Spoiler :
    Jennifer Aniston ("The Morning Show")
    Olivia Colman ("The Crown")
    Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve")
    Laura Linney ("Ozark")
    Sandra Oh ("Killing Eve")
    Zendaya ("Euphoria")
    Olivia Colman and Laura Linney are both awesome, but I haven't seen either show. Also, I have to vote for Sandra Oh in anything she ever does.

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    Outstanding lead actor in a limited series or TV movie

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    Jeremy Irons ("Watchmen")
    Hugh Jackman ("Bad Education")
    Paul Mescal ("Normal People")
    Jeremy Pope ("Hollywood")
    Mark Ruffalo ("I Know This Much Is True")
    Jeremy Irons was a lead actor in Watchmen? If you say so...

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    Outstanding lead actress in a limited series or TV movie

    Spoiler :
    Cate Blanchett ("Mrs. America")
    Shira Haas ("Unorthodox")
    Regina King ("Watchmen")
    Octavia Spencer ("Self Made")
    Kerry Washington ("Little Fires Everywhere")
    I'm 'ride or die' with Regina King, although Cate Blanchett was awesome too. Someday, Regina King and Sandra Oh are going to be nominated for the same award and I'm just going to have put my hands over my ears and shout "lalalalaIcanthearyoulalalala."

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    Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series


    Spoiler :
    Giancarlo Esposito, Better Call Saul
    Nicholas Braun, Succession
    Kieran Culkin, Succession
    Matthew Macfadyen, Succession
    Bradley Whitford, The Handmaid's Tale
    Billy Crudup, The Morning Show
    Mark Duplass, The Morning Show
    Jeffrey Wright, Westworld


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    Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series

    Spoiler :
    Laura Dern, Big Little Lies
    Meryl Streep, Big Little Lies
    Fiona Shaw, Killing Eve
    Julia Garner, Ozark
    Sarah Snook, Succession
    Helena Bonham Carter, The Crown
    Samira Wiley, The Handmaid's Tale
    Thandie Newton, Westworld


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    Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series

    Spoiler :
    Andre Braugher, Brooklyn Nine-Nine
    Mahershala Ali, Ramy
    Kenan Thompson, Saturday Night Live
    Daniel Levy, Schitt's Creek
    William Jackson Harper, The Good Place
    Alan Arkin, The Kominsky Method
    Sterling K. Brown, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
    Tony Shalhoub, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel


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    Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series

    Spoiler :
    Betty Gilpin, GLOW
    Yvonne Orji, Insecure
    Kate McKinnon, Saturday Night Live
    Cecily Strong, Saturday Night Live
    Annie Murphy, Schitt's Creek
    D'Arcy Carden, The Good Place
    Alex Borstein, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
    Marin Hinkle, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
    Betty Gilpin and D'Arcy Carden are supporting actresses? Hrm. Alright, I'll allow it, provided one of them wins.

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    Outstanding reality/competition series

    Spoiler :
    "The Masked Singer"
    "Nailed It"
    "RuPaul's Drag Race"
    "Top Chef"
    "The Voice"
    I'm not really a reality show guy, although I did watch Top Chef for years. Not lately, though.

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    Outstanding variety talk series

    Spoiler :
    "Daily Show with Trevor Noah"
    "Full Frontal with Samantha Bee"
    "Jimmy Kimmel Live"
    "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver"
    "Late Show with Stephen Colbert"


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    Outstanding limited Series

    Spoiler :
    "Little Fires Everywhere"
    "Mrs. America"
    "Unbelievable"
    "Unorthodox"
    "Watchmen"
    Watchmen, duh.
     
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    Lol, Westworld s3 was watched by like 3 people :)
     
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    Well, I personally know eight people who watched it, including myself, so :p.
     
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    I watched the first few eps of Westworld and didn't get what the hype was about. It was well-produced - money spent and all that - and the cast was excellent, but it didn't seem to be breaking any new ground and "Humans are horrible beings" is a narrative I don't need in fiction right now. Maybe I was too quick to give it The Hook, but I was using the free trial and I don't want to pay another subscription fee (and HBO's $15 seems excessive to me).
     
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    I think I mentioned it before, but WW was one of those shows I had to read alot of the aftershow articles online just to figure out many of the things I either didn't understand or missed while watching the show. So, yeah, it's probably not for everyone. S01 was amazing, S02 was meh, & S03 was not quite amazing, but way better than S02.
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    Just finished watching Brave New World on Peacock over the weekend. The trailer and the fact Alden Ehrenreich starred really piqued my interest. It was...not really what I expected. Pretty much every episode had at least one scene of soft core porn, but if you can get past that, the premise was very intriguing. I hadn't read the original novel, but the basic premise of the show is:
    and about the novel:

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    Also, The Alienist S02 premiered on TNT last Sunday. I generally don't like csi/psychological/police/medical-type scripted shows, but somehow with the actors, writing, and time period setting, I find myself really engaged with this series.

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    Finally, two fantastic videos to come out of the virtual SDCC.
    Archer S11 & His Dark Materials S02! :eekdance:

     
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    I rewatched the first episodes of The Expanse and Battlestar Galactica as a double-feature. The latter definitely comes off better in that particular head-to-head, although it benefits from being a 90-minute ep rather than just 60 minutes.

    Being a pilot, the first episode of The Expanse leaves a lot unexplained. In fact, there's a rather huge thing that it, imo, fails to tease the viewer with enough. Part of that is the fault of the book upon which the show is based, Leviathan Wakes. I remember reading the prologue of the book and not understanding what was going on until later. It wasn't an intriguing tease of things to come, because it was so opaque - I was just like, "the f? that was weird" and moved on. So when I saw the show for the first time, I already knew what the little prologue was prologuing. I could imagine those who hadn't read the book seeing the show's opening scene and just thinking, "the heck was that?" and you don't find out what it was until later. The 'hardness' of the hard sci-fi is top of the scale for television shows. Anyone who finishes The Expanse and wants to watch another "hard sci-fi" show may end up disappointed. I can't think of another show that does it as well. This first episode moves very fast, and by the end you won't have a good grasp of much of anything. The entire first episode is almost a teaser-trailer for the show. You don't even really know what the show is about, by the end. Still, it's a fun ride if you're willing to be patient and just roll with it.

    The first ep of BSG is, I think, one of the best pilots ever made. People diverge on BSG as it moves along in later seasons, but it started off stronger than maybe any show I've ever seen. This episode deftly introduces a huge number of characters; in the first 45 minutes, you get the "elevator pitch" for the Galactica, the Cylons, Cmdr Adama, Laura Roslin, Apollo, Starbuck, Col. Tigh, Baltar, Number Six, Boomer, Chief Tyrol and Helo, and you're introduced to Dualla, Gaeta, Cally and Billy. It's not until around minute 46 that we get "Action stations. Action stations. Set Condition One throughout the ship. This is not a drill." Before that, it's all character stuff. It might be an argument that all shows should start with an 80- or 90-minute episode. The CGI for BSG is at least a generation behind The Expanse, and it shows a little, but the sets and props and everything are still top-notch. One strength that I think both of these shows have is an attention to detail and an evident commitment to the material by everyone involved (someone who'd served aboard a US Navy aircraft carrier mentioned that the hustle n' bustle on the Galactica, even when it was just cruising peacefully along, the announcements on the PA system and whatnot, felt authentic to him). I did feel like the episode didn't hit one beat hard enough, the fact that Adama and Tigh and the CAG are basically the only 3 guys on the entire ship who'd ever seen combat before. I suppose the scene where the hotshot gets in trouble because she's overconfident, or the scene where the rookie gets overwhelmed and loses his nerve, are a bit hackneyed, but hey, I'm not a professional screenwriter. I did feel like they moved past that aspect a little fast. The odd little prologue scene also didn't add anything, and I kind of wish they had cut it. But I'm picking nits here - this is as close to a perfect first episode as I can think of.

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    Admittedly, I only watched the first few eps, but I didn't find it confusing. Of course the idea that people could create artificial life, and the potential implications, goes back to Frankenstein, and the original Westworld is among the classics of the "technology run amok" genre. I think for me, Blade Runner came before Frankenstein, and I imagine a lot of people saw that story first in Jurassic Park. In some ways, it isn't entirely fair to judge a television show on just the first few eps - there have been shows that improved as they went on* - but, otoh, that's about the length of a feature film. I remember kind of rolling my eyes when Evan Rachel Wood killed the fly that landed on her cheek, but if those first episodes were just a setup for a clever twist later on, I didn't stick around long enough.

    * I was entirely unimpressed with Buffy the Vampire Slayer for basically its entire first season, and that became a can't-miss show for me later. In fact, I think Buffy was what prompted me to get my first DVR, because I was taking classes at night. :lol:

    I was disappointed to find that only the first episode of Peacock's original series are available to the free-with-ads subscription. I was curious about Brave New World, but I probably won't bother now. I don't feel like paying for another streaming service, atm (if anything, I'm looking around for things I can cut, if I end up having to tighten my belt). I liked the first episode of The Capture, if you're into British thrillers.

    I liked the first season of The Alienist. The book, Angel of Darkness, didn't hold my attention as much as the first book did, but I thought the bones of the story might work well for the show if given a good screen-rewrite. The Alienist is a good example of a show that benefits from the advances to CGI technology, to recreate a historical period that isn't purely fantasy or sci-fi, like Babylon Berlin and Mindhunter. I've also read that Dakota Fanning is more of a central player this season.
     
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    I kind of forgot Peacock's a streaming service. I probably wouldn't have bothered with BNW either if I had to pay for the service - it's included for free in our Xfinity package.
    Definitely! The show's website has some great behind the scenes videos on how they brought 1890's NY to life. I hope more scripted historical shows take advantage of the technology.
    Really? I hadn't noticed any difference. The showrunners do a good job of splitting the onscreen time amongst the three mains.
     
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    Yeah, I watched a couple of those videos, for Babylon Berlin and Mindhunter. I was amazed how much CGI was in the latter show.

    Shortly after I read The Alienist, I was in the subway in New York and by chance walked past a picture of the old above-ground reservoir that features in the story. I knew the author had researched 19th-Centiry Manhattan, but I guess I didn't think about how much of the book was based on history and how much was pure fiction. It was kind of a fun surprise to see that the thing was real.

    Spoiler :


     
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    There's also Yes, Prime Minister if you haven't seen it.

    Another 3 off the top of my head...
    Absolute Power
    Vexed
    Mayo or (Gil Mayo Mysteries in some countries).

    Definitely watch the first two, and hold the Mayo.
     
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    Finished Titans S1 the other night, also watched S2:E1 because that was actually the last episode of the S1 story (WTH did they do that? Oh... wait...).

    I Am Not Okay With This ended very suddenly, but predictably
    Spoiler Yeeeaaah... :
    It's been pretty obvious since at least E2 that the scriptwriters were going to go for the Carrie ending, one way or another.
    The "we'd really like to make another season" coda was kind of irritating, but also kind of par for the course these days, I guess.

    Still running through Archer (S5) and Brooklyn Nine-Nine (S3), for some light relief from all the GrimDarktm

    Also watched 2 eps of Legends of Monkey. Not bad, but then again, I'm old enough to have seen the 'original' version when I was about 7 or 8...



    Next up (after I get back from vacation): iZombie S5, and The Umbrella Academy S2.

    I see we now also have another season of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina to look forward to (at some point).
     
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    So I'm rewatching season 1, episode 4 of The Expanse, and I noticed a spooky scene that I hadn't paid attention to the first time I watched it...

    **Major spoiler for the upcoming 5th season of The Expanse, and for book 5, Nemesis Games**

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    Avasirala is lying on the roof of her house with a little boy, her grandson, I guess. They're watching a meteor shower.

    Little boy: "They're nothing to be scared of, you know. They're just little rocks that burn up in the sky."
    Chrisjen: "They're not always so little."
    Boy: "You mean, like the one that killed the dinosaurs?"
    Chrisjen: "Uh-huh."
    Boy: "Okay, that rock was big. But that hardly ever happens. Like winning the lottery."
    Chrisjen: "I worry about people who throw rocks."
    Boy: [scoffs] "Nobody could throw rocks that big. It just happens sometimes."

    :shifty:
     
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    Yeah, I noticed that too. I saw the show first, thought the first season incoherent. Then I read the books up to Tiamat's Wrath. Then I re-watched the show. Very first scene: "Hey, wait a second..."
     
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    Oh, here's another one, where Amos, Naomi and Alex are stuck in the Donnager's brig, and they're losing air...

    Spoiler :
    Amos: "You're a good person."
    Naomi: "I could have been better. I didn't even get to say goodbye."
    Amos: "To who?"
    Naomi: "Doesn't matter."

    Now, that's some serious foreshadowing. I mean, the viewer isn't meant to know what she's talking about for 3-4 seasons. I doubt the actors even knew. :lol:
     
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    Finished Battlestar Galactica again.

    Tried the second season of The Order. The first was a barely passable, low-quality CW-esque show. Second was... not good. Gave up midway through.

    So I guess I'll finally see what the hype is all about with How I Met Your Mother. 2 minutes in and have heard at least 10 laugh tracks. Ugh.
     
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    Hilarious show. Definitely one of my top 5 comedies. The final season was kind of a disappointment, probably should have ended with season 7 or 8.
     
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