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Why am I always Dan Quayle?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by bedowin, Jun 18, 2006.

  1. bedowin

    bedowin Chieftain

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    I just got the game last week. I finally got my first Warlord skill level victory via Space Race Victory.

    I finally got "Eth the Unready"; second from worst person to be like. Do you have to just completely obliterate your opponents to get higher and higher or do you think there is something this noob is missing?
     
  2. Truronian

    Truronian Quite unfamiliar Retired Moderator

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    I wouldn't read too much into them, a victory is a victory after all. IIR its all absed on average score. The higher the score the better the grade.

    On the subject, with whom will Shaka and Augustus be replaced in the rankings with the coming of Warlords?
     
  3. Sisiutil

    Sisiutil All Leader Challenger

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    One of the best ways to increase your score is to win earlier. Having a bigger population that other civs also counts for a lot.
     
  4. Prussia

    Prussia Chieftain

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    Go to the standings screen and see your ranking of everything (Life Expectancy, Population, etc.). You might be winning even if you are in last place in certain categories (I'm always behind on Life Expectancy for some reason, I think you need like 0 sickness in every city), but if you maintain being the best throughout the entire game and win beautifully, you'd up your ranking.
     
  5. Bushface

    Bushface Chieftain

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    To get a good score, you need to :-
    1. Have a large population.
    2. Own as much land as you can get.
    3. Build all the wonders you can.
    4. Develop all the techs that you can.
    5. Win as soon as you possibly can - this is vital.
    6. Do all the above at as high a difficulty level as possible.
    You can see how you're doing by mousing over your score in the lower right corner of the screen (unless this option is off). Simple, really. Not so simple is how you achieve these ideals, so read the strategy threads and guides.
     
  6. Silver Marmot

    Silver Marmot Chieftain

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    I rarely get a good ranking whenever I don't win by domination or conquest. Since the other victories cannot be accomplished as quickly, domination and conquest seem to give the highest scores (at least this has been my experience). Really though, it doesn't matter - a win is a win.
     
  7. Slip de Garcon

    Slip de Garcon Chieftain

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    I got Augustus the other day!

    I always assumed you had to be successful militarily, whereas I'd only had one early war, then five millenia of peace...
     
  8. Andraeianus I

    Andraeianus I Chieftain

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    Also on other victories this is quite possible. I have reached Caesar Augustus several times by cultural or diplomatic wins on Monarch.
     
  9. wmtrexler

    wmtrexler ICBM Diplomacy

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    One word: potatoe
     
  10. ShaLouZa

    ShaLouZa Chieftain

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    Military victories sure help, you have a higher game score and end the game faster : I once won by domination on a large or huge continents map (Rome, praets, overkill...) in the 1850's and scored 25k, ending as Augustus for the first time. I usually win by space victory in the 1900s and never scored more than 8k this way.
     
  11. karlhegna

    karlhegna Chieftain

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    Rank Leader Score
    1 Augustus Caesar > 15,000
    2 Hammurabi 14,000 - 14,999
    3 Abraham Lincoln 13,000 - 13,999
    4 Charlemagne 12,000 - 12,999
    5 Winston Churchill 11,000 - 11,999
    6 Nelson Mandela 10,500 - 10,999
    7 Emperor Constantine 10,000 - 10,499
    8 Shaka Zulu 9,500 - 9,999
    9 Charles de Gaulle 9,000 - 9,499
    10 Simón Bolívar 8,500 - 8,999
    11 Lech Wałęsa 8,000 - 8,499
    12 Ivan the Terrible 7,500 - 7,999
    13 Henry VIII 7,000 - 7,499
    14 Herbert Hoover 6,500 - 6,999
    15 Louis XVI 6,000 - 6,499
    16 Neville Chamberlain 5,500 - 5,999
    17 Nero 5,000 - 5,499
    18 Warren G. Harding 4,000 - 4,999
    19 Ethelred the Unready 3,000 - 3,999
    20 Dan Quayle < 3,000
     
  12. Watiggi

    Watiggi Chieftain

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    karlhegna, are you kidding? Is that meant to imply that Firaxis/Civ4 considers a 15,000 point score an exceptional score and anything above that is beyond exceptional? Strange. A player can get 20-30K by just doing a "no-thrills" noble small map conquest rush.

    Watiggi
     
  13. Esox

    Esox In Search of Inspirado

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    The highest score in my hall of fame, by far, is a quechua domination win on Warlord. I play on Prince now trying to work up, and it looks like that one will be at the top for the foreseeable future. Oh well. I guess difficulty level is its own reward.
     
  14. Gumbolt

    Gumbolt Phoenix Rising

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    Well if its only 15k and above they should rejig the system as i always get around 30k on domination wins on monarchy.
     
  15. wioneo

    wioneo Chieftain

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    I always get Caesar now! I'm so proud. I used to get the bottom guy. I've never gotten anything in between. and What's this about removing Caesar and The Zulu? That's just wrong...
     
  16. Instant_Cereal

    Instant_Cereal Chieftain

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    Heh, I remember I had to look Dan Qualye up on the internet. I seriously had no clue who he was. Clever, Firaxes.
     
  17. NT_Jedi

    NT_Jedi Chieftain

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    So how do we change the historical names linked within " Rank Leader Score " where is this information stored ?
     
  18. Sisiutil

    Sisiutil All Leader Challenger

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    It's nice to know he's doomed to be a footnote in the annals of history, at best. :lol:
     
  19. wioneo

    wioneo Chieftain

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    You know, I am going to Google Danny right now...

    Haha, he can't spell putado:lol: ...wait.
     
  20. Sisiutil

    Sisiutil All Leader Challenger

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    :lol: Good one.
     

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