Why are there few females with Aspergers?

[z_step18]

Well, this so called syndrome, along with many others, is invented only to boost sales of drugs, and some "doctors" careers. So, I don't consider this "syndrome" good or bad, I consider it non-existent. I consider leeches ("doctors") that promote it bad.
Healthy outdoor activities cure this "disorders" much better than some placebo pills.

Do you know someone who has Aspergers or is autistic? Just because this diagnosis is new does not mean its an invention by doctors to boost up drug sales. If you did know someone, you would know that it is a syndrome. Right now, you do not have a clue.

 

[Mirc]

Maybe females are much more likely to get courted by random strangers and thus overcome their shyness which some people incorrectly identify as Asperger's or the like?

 

[z_step18]

Maybe females are much more likely to get courted by random strangers and thus overcome their shyness which some people incorrectly identify as Asperger's or the like?

It has a lot more to do than just someone being shy. It has to do with social interaction, behavior, language, etc. I'm astonished with how many people actually think this is some made-up disorder.

 

[Mirc]

I've never said it was a made-up disorder. But I still maintain my point that many people who actually think they've got it don't actually have it, and females are more likely to realize that they don't.

 

[Traitorfish]

What might personality traits be other than fundamental differences in the wiring of the brain?

Nobody knows exactly what the balance between nature and nuture are- and, doubtless, it changes from person to person- but Asperger's represents more than just a few quirks. It's a fundamentally altered way of processing information, particularly emotional information. Autistic people, including those with Aspergers, basically lack the empathy that comes naturally to most people, and so interact with other people rather differently.

Has anyone shown that Asperger's sufferers have grossly odd brain morphology?

I believe studies have shown that Asperger's brains are biological different, but I'm not going to try and start lecturing. I honestly don't know enough about it, and I'm not going to pretend to be an expert. Suffice to say, it's more than just a personality type. I know this sounds like the most horrible cop out, but if you google around, you should be able to find some stuff about it.

With training and therapy anyone can partially 'overcome' aspects of their character. Of course we need to understand a person's character before we try to change it. That should be part of being a family member or teacher without having to rely on syndromes.

Why? If it's possible to guide people and make everyone happier for it, why not? There's no reason that Asperger's people, or those they associate with, should be made to suffer unnecessarily. It's hardly like it's "cheating" to diagnose and define these sorts of disorders.

That's all a load of crap made up by some "doctors". Back in the old days, these "syndroms" didn't even existed.

Just like atoms, x-rays and Neptune didn't exist, you mean?

Well, this so called syndrome, along with many others, is invented only to boost sales of drugs, and some "doctors" careers. So, I don't consider this "syndrome" good or bad, I consider it non-existent. I consider leeches ("doctors") that promote it bad.

Right, except that Asperger's Syndromes cannot actually be treated through medication, so that's basically a lot of rubbish.

Healthy outdoor activities cure this "disorders" much better than some placebo pills.

Yeah, you just made that up. There's no pills, and "healthy outdoor activities" are incapable of alter someone's basic biology.

There is decades of research which speak for the existence of Asperger's. What evidence do you have against it, exactly, given that your paranoid "they made it up to sell drugs!" thing is demonstratably false?

 

[Rossiya]

Because what you posted was soooooo obvious, right?

See, that's how you use proper sarcasm.

That is not sarcasm. That is insulting your audience, deeming them idiots.

 

[Pannonius]

Dude, just because a huge recent study proved that exercise is on par with drugs for your average depressive doesn't mean.... err.. you're a jerk Pannonius, just trust the experts ok!!

First of all, thank you for the compliment, you are obviously a very polite person. And what "experts" should I trust? Who are these "experts"?

 

[Shylock]

Where did you get your psychology degree from, Brighteye?

So in order for anyone to know anything they have to have a piece of paper that says they do.

I guess that means all my experience with Windows, networking, programming, and building system doesn't mean anything because I didn't pay someone to waste my time for 4 years so they can give me some paper (yet).

 

[Narz]

First of all, thank you for the compliment, you are obviously a very polite person. And what "experts" should I trust? Who are these "experts"?

Sarcasm my son, sarcasm.

 

[philippe]

Oh that's right, it's all an invented disorder, yeah, that's why i wasn't ableto talk propely until i was 6 or so, it's all voodoo and ooga-booga.

 

[Narz]

Oh that's right, it's all an invented disorder, yeah, that's why i wasn't ableto talk propely until i was 6 or so, it's all voodoo and ooga-booga.

Autism and it's spectrums are legitimate organic mental disorders. Stuff like ADD, ADHD aren't (they are vague diagnoses as a vehicle to sell drugs to naive parents of energetic children).

Depression is a legitimate (horrible) temporary aliment. As is bipolar (though it's more often than not caused by drugs & unnatural living) but drugs are most often not the best choice for treatment.

I'm not in agreement with Pannonius that autism is "made up" though I do know it's possible for some to make incredible progress from even a pretty severe state of it.

I'm never one to tell them their challenges are not real just that certain industries take advantage of desperate parents.

Cheers.

 

[downtown]

Depression is a legitimate (horrible) temporary aliment. As is bipolar (though it's more often than not caused by drugs & unnatural living) but drugs are most often not the best choice for treatment.
.

Bipolar Disorder is not a temporary aliment.

 

[Bill3000]

Neither is chronic depression, for that matter. Otherwise it wouldn't be called "chronic"

 

[Chukchi Husky]

I remember reading that the stories of wolf children may have originated from children with autism that were abandoned.

 

[Narz]

Bipolar Disorder is not a temporary aliment.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. For me it was. Depends on the person, causes & severity.

Neither is chronic depression, for that matter. Otherwise it wouldn't be called "chronic"

Right, I meant to say severe depression.

Can be chronic, can not be.

 

[downtown]

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. For me it was. Depends on the person, causes & severity.

Then you didn't have bipolar disorder. You had something else.

 

[Narz]

Then you didn't have bipolar disorder. You had something else.

Who said I was talking about me?

Anyway, I know this is a personal issue for you but it's unscientific and immoral for anyone to ever tell you (or anyone else) that you're stuck with something like bipolar for life.

Your insistance that no person who's ever had bipolar's brain can change simply has no basis in reality and while it may seem like a harmless belief it's in fact not at all harmless.

Telling people they've got a disease for life & cannot change no matter what is bogus but they don't know that. People trust doctors over themselves & will buy into it. Which can (not always) make things worse. I know your personal experience. I also had a friend with severe depression. Docs gave him drugs, he wanted to get off them but was convinced (by the professionals and ultimately himself) that he'd be hopeless without them. The anti-anxieties & anti-psychotics he was on caused him to gain 70 pounds. He ultimately died of a heart attack (whether it was drug induced or not no one will tell me but I imagine it is, he was only 24). Obviously there were other factors. His mom was a worthless biatch who refused to speak to him after he dropped out of college (I feel for her now though, she must be suffering every day), he had an alcohol problem, he didn't have much support, he was a set view of the way the future should be that he always believed he could never live up to & it killed him, etc.

So we both have our tragic tales. But reality is on my side.

I was diagnosed by multiple doctors with bi-polar disorder. I no longer fit the profile for bi-polar disorder. And if there's one thing I've learned from these threads (sarcasm ahead) it's that doctors > laymen every time so that must mean I actually did have it.

 

[Meowmix]

Thought of a decent example for pannonius, Prince John

Though you might be more comfortable acknowledging epilepsy as it had a physical symptom...

Some things like ADHD are certainly misdiagnosed, but that doesn't mean you should tar other problems with the same brush, which, like autism, are completley different and should be understood rather than being attacked.

P.S I don't mean to be personal with you, it's good to sceptical just I think it's misplaced here

 

[Arwon]

So in order for anyone to know anything they have to have a piece of paper that says they do.

I guess that means all my experience with Windows, networking, programming, and building system doesn't mean anything because I didn't pay someone to waste my time for 4 years so they can give me some paper (yet).

False dichotomy much?

 

[azzaman333]

Biological.

[google]Men, Women and the Extreme Male Brain.[/google]

Thread should've ended here. Partially because it's correct, and partially because it cuts off the retarded discussions about every psychological ailment being invented to push drugs that occur every time.