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Why Bernie Sanders should be president

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lawn_Donuts, Dec 25, 2015.

  1. Lawn_Donuts

    Lawn_Donuts Chieftain

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    Link to video.

    Because he dances and gets slapped in the butt. No but seriously, because he's a better choice than all the other candidates and he is the only one with a real record. Hillary is untrustworthy, a liar and is trying to cheat her way to victory, said she would stand up to wall street and corporate donors yet she gets a ton of money from them. Trump is totally clueless and yet is seen as one of the smarter Republicans. Also the lead singer of REM called him a orange clown. Does that mean he's the clown (Mcguire) from super Double Dragon? Also, Trump and Putin have a bit of bromance going; I think if Trump were elected, him and Putin would probably just ride horses shirtless together. Jeb is falling off the main debate stage as Trump said, and he should change his name to Jebya like his brother who kept us safe in Hurricane Katrina. Even Rand Paul is ahead of Jeb, and Trump called out Rand in his first words of the 2nd debate for being on stage. Ben Carson's life is straight outta a fairytale. His life changed in the bathroom. Also he puts you asleep when he talks and has weird analogies. And I think all Ted Cruz would do is start dancing like a maniac if he were elected. Atleast Bernie gets slapped in the butt when he dances :goodjob: And John Kasich when he talks, his hand gestures are like he's doing air traffic control.

    Basically Bernie's voting record has always been on the right side of history (civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, standing up to Alan Greenspan and dumb trade policies and wall street, and voting against the Iraq war), and the other candidates are all bought out by corporate interests.
     
  2. luiz

    luiz Trendy Revolutionary

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    Bernie Sanders would be terrible president and fortunately he will never even get the Democratic nomination.

    At this point it seems Hillary is inevitable.
     
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    Archbob Ancient CFC Guardian

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    Sanders would be my choice. Jill Stein has some good point but is crazy on some others. Going 100% renewable is just not feasible in the the forseeable future. The republican nomination is a clown-car race right now with Rubio as the only one with a shred of sanity.

    But, I would settle for Clinton. Hillary politically is probably close to Bill in terms of Right/Left and I'm fine with that, I'll settle.

    Plus, I would want to see what Bill would do as the First Lord of the United States.
     
  5. Lawn_Donuts

    Lawn_Donuts Chieftain

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    Yes it is a clown car race; and here's the leader of that race.
     
  6. _random_

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    I think the main appeal of a hypothetical Sanders administration would be the hilarious state of the union addresses. The odds of substantial reform in healthcare, education, campaign finance, regular finance, drug policy, or criminal justice are fairly slim, but you know those speeches would be hilarious.
     
  7. Synsensa

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    I don't know that this should be seen as a benefit towards voting for Clinton. The Clintons have established a rather solid reputation of meddling in affairs that they really shouldn't and have consistently ended up on the wrong side of the tracks when it comes to political ethics and making the right decision about domestic matters. One of the biggest things keeping them afloat is the massive power base they've created throughout the political elite of America as well as foreign governments. Their business interests overseas also make me question the feasibility of having Hilary in the driver's seat. Having another Haiti is not a problem the States should be taking on right now and I genuinely think that's a sizable risk if Hilary takes control.

    Edit@_random_: I think most aware individuals don't expect Sanders to accomplish much if he wins. The biggest draw, in my opinion, is that Sanders has the potential of shifting the future political climate of the United States which serves in everyone's best interests. He'll start the discussion on many matters that need reform, encourage involvement in American citizenry, and hopefully consistently make proclamations that make sense, ie. not being a racist. He might not achieve very much but there's a chance that his replacements down the line may achieve what he originally set out to do.
     
  8. luiz

    luiz Trendy Revolutionary

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    Yeah, he would move the US closer to that of far more successful countries such as Venezuela. His economic views are not very different from those of Hugo Chávez.

    If Americans are keen on standing in line for hours to buy toilet paper, he's their man. If they want to become dramatically poorer due to his protectionism, he's their man. The same goes for Brits and Corbyn.

    Of course, the only places where the likes of Sanders and Corbyn stand any chance of winning an election are internet polls on places like CFC. And thank God for that.
     
  9. Ryika

    Ryika Lazy Wannabe Artista

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    Out of all candidates Bernie Sanders is probably the least bad one, but honestly, if I were an American and had to choose between the people available, I'd probably not vote at all.

    If Sanders becomes president he'll probably bend over backwards for the regressive parts of the left and slapping will not be the only thing they'll do to his butt. Years go by and because people will be even more fed up with the nonsense than they already are Trump will look like a reasonable person compared to the people who'll be leading the polls for the next election.
     
  10. Synsensa

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    Lol what? Where on earth did you get an idea like that? Fox News?
     
  11. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    The thing to keep in mind is that the worst of all possible worlds for the US is any of the announced Republican candidates. If Hillary is the best we can do to prevent a Republican being elected, that's an outstandingly small price to pay.
     
  12. Lawn_Donuts

    Lawn_Donuts Chieftain

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    Bernie is polling better than Hilary against any of the Republicans and he would demolish Trump in a general election by 13%. Especially against Ben Carson whose trip to Syria now makes him an expert in foreign policy...probably came up with his foreign policy plan while in a bathroom.
     
  13. Synsensa

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    I hate that you're right, but you're right. Even with the corruption of the Clintons, Hilary is a better choice than any of the current Republican options. It's sad that the Republican candidate pool has become so... unhinged. It complicates the election cycle, another reason why I adore Sanders' campaign so much since it'd hopefully bring about a few more sane options the next go around.
     
  14. luiz

    luiz Trendy Revolutionary

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    No, from his economic ideas like repealing free trade treaties that have greatly contributed to American prosperity, placing large industries under workers' ownership (which would destroy them) and creating a top marginal tax rate of 90% (which would lead to fall in tax revenue and make a lot of rich people move abroad).

    Pure disaster. But of course it's pointless to discuss this, because he won't be president.

    That's all very cool, but also irrelevant since he stands no chance in the Democratic primary.

    Hillary has the greatest establishment support on record, and also the Black vote, without which it is completely impossible to win the Democratic nomination. Ergo, Hillary is inevitable.
     
  15. Lawn_Donuts

    Lawn_Donuts Chieftain

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    Prosperity for the CEO's anyway. Nobody else gained anything from the so called prosperity (besides longer working hours for less real wages), and he explicitly said he wouldn't raise the top marginal rate to 90%, but at least enough that CEO's don't pay less in taxes than everyone else.



    Also Sanders is leading in New Hampshire and closed the gap in Iowa, so he certainly has a shot like Obama.

    "Everyone is sick and tired about Hillary being the guaranteed nominee." Bee was behind close to the same percentage to Hillary at this time like Bernie is behind now to Hillary, yet we know how that went down with bee.
     
  16. Synsensa

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    90% tax rate? Worker ownership? Haha, whaaaaat? Where are you getting this from?
     
  17. Lawn_Donuts

    Lawn_Donuts Chieftain

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    He must be getting his information from Ben Carsons toilet :D

    Like if Donald wins then he's gonna come to all our of our houses and throw us because hes Mcguire. If Ben Carson wins then the country will go down the toilet where he had his revelation :D
    If Ted Cruz wins then were all gonna be wearing cowboy boots and dancing like maniacs.

    Atleast with Bernie instead of people being thrown by a clown, Bernie will be throwing corporate people out of politics, and when Bernie leads the dance there'll be butt slapping.
     
  18. Ryika

    Ryika Lazy Wannabe Artista

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    Link to video.

    0:52 ... ;)

    Yes, Bernie Sanders has made statements that a top marginal tax rate of 90% may be legit. The only thing wrong about luiz statements about the tax rate is, at least as far as I can tell, that Bernie Sanders did not actually say that he wants a 90% marginal tax rate for America. He has refused to name actual numbers for his campaign for quite a while now.

    Other than that it seems to me that some people should google the meaning of "top marginal tax rate", as it's not just a "90% tax rate". It is absolutely no surprise that Bernie Sanders would be in favor of such a tax rate for income above a certain threshold.
     
  19. Lawn_Donuts

    Lawn_Donuts Chieftain

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    Link to video.

    And 1:20 he denies taking it that high. "I'm not that much of a socialist compared to Eisenhower"

    Hillary and the Republican candidates are just throwing things out there and hoping it sticks; particularly with Trump since he's Mcguire, he will physically throw you.
     
  20. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    Don't forget his crazy plan to build a bridge to the moon.
     

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