Why can't I found Sid's Sushi?

[madscientist]

I have attached the saved game, played with patch 3.13 from the start. Basically I have everything I need as far as I understand. The Great Mechant was the byproduct of founding economics and corporation was stolen from Louis XIV by a spy. I tried moving the great merchant to a coastal city with fish (I never needed to do this in BTS 3.03) to no avail.

Am I missing something????


Thanks

 

[xanadux]

I don't have the game in front of me right now, but I am pretty sure that another tech is required for Sid's Sushi (I think Biology). I think corporation is required for all corporations, but a secondary tech is required for each individual corporation.

 

[r_rolo1]

You're in SP....maybe that's it ( 3.13 changed it? in 3.0x you could found corps in SP )

EDIt that's it... If you revolt to FM or Enviromentalism you can found the corp ( just tested it )

 

[madscientist]

I don't have the game in front of me right now, but I am pretty sure that another tech is required for Sid's Sushi (I think Biology). I think corporation is required for all corporations, but a secondary tech is required for each individual corporation.

Sorry, I should of mentioned that. I have biology and medicine teched. I mentioned corporation only because I actually stole it via a spy and thought that maybe it was a bug or had to be self teched.

According to past BTS games and civpedia I have everything I should.

 

[madscientist]

You're in SP....maybe that's it ( 3.13 changed it? in 3.0x you could found corps in SP )

AHA!!! I forgot about SP, yes I am in it. I'll switch out and see if it works, I thought I could found corps in SP also but this is the likely problem.

Thanks!! I'll post in a bit if that works.

 

[madscientist]

That was it (SP), I can found the corp now. I probably won't stick with it since no SP pretty much wrecks my economy and food tree but we will see.

Thanks for the quick fix.

 

[xanadux]

Hah, I should have mentioned that. First time I tried to found Sushi, I had the same problem ... SP. Oh, and if you spread it to an AI, make sure they have a fish or rice resource, or you can't. Not extremely common, but I tried to use it to make money off my vassal Stalin one game, and despite having 6 or 7 coastal cities, none of his cities had access to seafood or rice.

 

[johnny_rico]

Man, isn't that annoying. I founded sid's at one point and then blindly switched to SP (windmill and workshop junkie here) out of habit and couldn't figure out what happened to my wall street for the longest time. Too bad there is no indicator to tell you your corporations are no longer functioning to benefit you, they now belong to the state and the wealth will be divided accordingly.

 

[CBPE]

I'm very sorry for this noob question but.... what's SP?!?

Is it a kind of civic (State Property)?

I have the same problem, I can't found the corporation but I have all is required.

My civics are: Representation, Burocracy, Emancipation, Mercantilism, Theocracy

 

[LiberiGlacialis]

I'm very sorry for this noob question but.... what's SP?!?

Is it a kind of civic (State Property)?

I have the same problem, I can't found the corporation but I have all is required.

My civics are: Representation, Burocracy, Emancipation, Mercantilism, Theocracy

Yep, it's State Property. Good for production and cutting costs, but not for founding corps, it seems....

 

[madscientist]

SP is state property. I finished my game and ended up founding Sid's and running free market. Missing the +1 food from workshops (the few rivers I had were cottaged) were no big deal because of the extra food. What was an issue while going for a domination win and the high distance to palace cost. I ended up running only 0% on the science slider but had such a tech lead it did not matter.

 

[CBPE]

So, which civics allow Sid's Sushi?
Free Market? Environmentailism?

And the others corporations?

 

[Say_my_name]

You should be able to found corporations as long as you aren't running state property. Check the following:
Do you have the tech "Corporations"?
Do you have the second tech you need for the Corporation? (It would be Medicine for Sids Suhi, IIRC.)
Are you sure that nobody else has already founded the Corporation?
Are you using the right kind of Great Person to found? (Great Merchant for Sids Sushi)

Edit: I just saw a post in the BtS forum that says that you can't found corporations while Mercantilism. This is likely a bug, introduced by the 3.13 patch. Switch out of Mercantilism, found the corporation, and then switch back.
Look here for the original bug report.You might want to install Bhruics unofficial patch, which fixes this problem, among some others. Look here to find information regarding this.

 

[r_rolo1]

@CBPE
They should be allowed by all the Eco civics except SP.... Merc should allow you to found a corp as well. Of course that you need to have the founding techs as well . Can you post a save of the game you're talking about ( just to check) ?

 

[MrCynical]

You can found corporations under Free Market, Enviromentalism and (if you really want) Decentralization. You're supposed to be able to found them under Mercantilism, but there's a bug in 3.13 that prevents this (I think Bhruic has fixed it). You can't found under State Property.

 

[CBPE]

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[CBPE]

I'm playing with 3.13+Bhruic's patch.

Here's the save. Unfortunately, it's in italian language (I don't know what is going to happen if you load it by a game with english language setting)

Anyway, I tried as you suggest: under FM, Environmentaism and Decentralization I'm able to build the corporation, under Mercantilism and SP I don't.

So... why Bhruic's patch doesn't work?!?

 

[CBPE]

Problem solved. I had the 1.05 version of Bhruic's patch installed. Installing version 1.07 it works.