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Why do camel archers need horse?

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Civciv5, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. Civciv5

    Civciv5 Grand Emperor

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    Isn't it ridiculous that camel archers need horses?
    Camels don't need horses to live.
    What do you think?
     
  2. hudders

    hudders Matryoshka

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    Because they're just horses in fancy-dress.
     
  3. James T

    James T Chieftain

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    I agree... Siam's/India's elephants don't require horses, why do the camel archers?
     
  4. Kyuu

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    It'd be somewhat unfair to create a resource "Camels" catered only to specific Civs (that no other Civ gets to use in terms of unit creation).
     
  5. Esperr

    Esperr King

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    The evolution requirement to make horseman evolve is that theyre in desert territory.
     
  6. hobbsyoyo

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    While holding a moon stone;)
     
  7. Esperr

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    Well played good sir.
     
  8. chazzycat

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    it is a little silly when you think about it, but necessary for balance. sometimes gameplay trumps realism, and this is one of the times. To make them resource-free, they would probably have to water them down, and I don't think you want that. It's not like horses are that hard to come by.
     
  9. James T

    James T Chieftain

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    Fair. But are Camel Archers that much more better than Siam's Elephants?
     
  10. chazzycat

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    yes. in skilled hands, mobile ranged units are inherently more dangreous than melee, because they can avoid damage taking much easier. Because they are much easier to keep alive, and also can attack 2x a turn after logistics, they get promotions much faster as well.
     
  11. TheMarshmallowBear

    TheMarshmallowBear Benelovent Chieftain of the BearKingdom

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    I've never been one to dabble deeply into the details of units (strength, movement, defense blah blah blah) But i'm assuming it has something to do with Balancing issues.
     
  12. pxpdoo

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    Because Ivory is already a Luxury / Building resource, so Siam and India's UUs already have (theoretical) access to them as a resource (like Horses for Horsemen, Stables, etc). Camels don't have a luxury quality to them, and virtually no one needs them for anything except for a particular UU. Thus, as has already been stated, it's a gameplay decision to just kinda lump them in with the Horse resource in this case.
     
  13. Mechanicalsalvation

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    Agreed its ridiculous. Camels should require just an access to desert tile.
     
  14. hobbsyoyo

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    And a moon stone!!!!!!!
     
  15. pxpdoo

    pxpdoo Ninja Burger Fry Cook

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    Ah! Good thought.
     
  16. azzaman333

    azzaman333 meh

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    It's for balance purposes, or it could just be Firaxis trolling us. Take your pick.
     
  17. Slvynn

    Slvynn Duke Vector fon Pixel

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    Arabs selling horses and buying camels from their brothers Bedouins
    Seriously...
     
  18. Denkt

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    Camel archer are basicly slow heavy kesihk and keshik do need horses and camels should also need horses otherwise they would have a hugh advantage over the faster and weaker keshik.
     
  19. BlackMoon450

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    I believe it's mostly a balance issue, plus you need SOMETHING to ride, right?
     
  20. Esperr

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    Logistics bro. logistics.
     

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