I played IV, BTS and now V, and i enjoy them all. There are some things in V that could be improved, and there are some things that, IMO, are greatly improved. I have always thought the hexes were the way to go, simply because it makes movement more realistic. I didn't like the stacks of doom, although I used them as most did. I really didn't like spies or corporations (and usually didn't use them), but some people did. I like the better strategy requirements for combat in V, although I don't usually try to win a domination victory. I must be the only person who has played a V game where the AI didn't try to attack me at every turn (although they did war among themselves a great deal - I did have a nice location with some strategic choke points for several entries into my territory whihc made it difficult to attack me). I think that the tile production needs some work, causing the trading post spam that many have referred to. but with all that said, I'd rather have V out now, with everybody playing and suggesting improvements, than to have it being played only by beta testers for another 6-12 months. It's not perfect, but no game is; and I expect it will continue to improve. It's definitely a different feel than the IV and BTS versions. Some will like one, some the other, which doesn't make either necessarily better or worse; just different. If there's a problem for most people, I think it's that the game did not live up to their expectations. The Civ series has set such a standard in the past (at least after final development), that it's almost impossible to do. If someone expects something to be a 6, and it's a 7, they're happy. If they expect a 10 and it's an 9, they're disappointed, even though they got something better than the person expecting the 6. I think that's ultimately what happened here. And as the suggestions are aired and modifcations made (even as in the release today), the game will almost certainly more closely approach the ideal that everyone had in mind from the beginning - and set the stage for everyone to be disappointed when/if Civ VI comes out!