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Why Europe seems to hate the US now

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Colonel, May 26, 2007.

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  1. Colonel

    Colonel Sandbox

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    I've noticed lately that the Europeans at least the populations of European countries, not the leadership, seems to have a growing hatred toward the US. It seems to me rather pointless given we aren't attacking you, we aren't adversely effecting your economy, and we aren't imposing our will on any allied country. So what is it that makes you dislike us now. So what if we are invading countries to protect ourselves. We are a sovereign nation so we aren't a servant to European or Global will, yet you seem to think we need your permission to our bidding across the globe. To be completely fair we are if anything the leader of the Western world so if anyone should be asking for permission to impose their will it should be European nations.
     
  2. brennan

    brennan Argumentative Brit

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    Suggest you re-read your OP. Look for the overkill on the arrogance and selfishness and you may get a clue.
     
  3. GoodEnoughForMe

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    Europeans don't hate us, they merely disagree with our current head politicians. I can imagine that in a decade or so, it will all be smoothed over.

    Plus, just because we are the world's top superpower doesn't mean everyone has to bow to our will and do as we say. That sounds like a dictator country.
     
  4. amaterasu

    amaterasu the true messiah

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    As a european ( hehe) who has met quite a few other europeans from different countries, we are starting( america was awesome a few years ago) to dislike america because of that attitude you just displayed, and then the way you throw your weight around, seem not to care for other countries, your stance on world poverty ect.ect. just seeming to be so arrogant and un caring for the rest of the world so long as you are OK.
     
  5. Colonel

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    Its not arrogance its simple reality, we are the top dog so to speak and we may and will impose our will on the world. However Europeans seem to think that their country or Europe as a whole has a right to control American foreign policy. When in reality the US should have some say in European foreign policy, that may be selfish but it is reality.

    Also as a general rule in American foreign policy, what protect the US also protects the Western allies.
     
  6. AL_DA_GREAT

    AL_DA_GREAT amour absinthe révolution

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    arogance and ignorance is real annoying. We are the greatest country in the world, that just makes me sick.
     
  7. amaterasu

    amaterasu the true messiah

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    You base that opinion on what exactly? Just because america happens to be a hyperpower atm, it doesn't mean they can do whatever they want for the hell of it. Britian went to iraq as well, its an unpopular war, but america is the leader there is it not? American treatment of the situation in darufr for example, you dont generally seem to care about anything aprt from your selves, same with global warming.
     
  8. Colonel

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    statistically we can prove we are but I believe for the purposes of this thread such stats listed would be overkill.

    Iraq is necessary for securing oil reserves and maintaining American and Western power in the next 100 years.
    Darfur is an unneccessary war unless they hit the oil reserves to the south.
    Global warming will be addressed when it becomes a threat to the US and West.
     
  9. Bugfatty300

    Bugfatty300 Buddha Squirrel

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    Yes, many cannot stomach the truth.:p :lol: ;)
     
  10. AL_DA_GREAT

    AL_DA_GREAT amour absinthe révolution

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    greatest on what? French wine is better than yours, very few people can name an American painting. Seriously that is a very bliased unfair comment that is based on nothing.
     
  11. brennan

    brennan Argumentative Brit

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    It is still arrogant and selfish. These are not generally considered good personality traits.

    Here's an metaphor for you: you are stuck in the toilets with someone far bigger than you. He makes you wipe his backside clean. According to you this is a-ok because a) he can do it, and b) he doesn't care what you think.

    This is not condusive to the big guy's popularity. This is how the US is behaving. Hence it's unpopularity. I hope that explains matters. If your behaviour does not change, expect to become a lot less popular. Being the biggest bully around soesn't help when you piss everyone else off enough that they all decide you need a good kicking.
     
  12. bhsup

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    I more or less agreed with you up until that last sentence. They also are sovereign nations and don't need our permission to do whatever they deem necessary for their own nations.

    Regarding it being the political leadership right now, that's a bogus argument. Clinton was frequently lambasted by Europeans in the 90s as well, so I don't think it's so much who is in charge over here as, for whatever reason, just a rivalry that has cool periods and rather heated periods. That's all relative, though, as our 'heated periods' are obviously still light years ahead of, for example, the best relations we ever had with the USSR during the cold war.
     
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    I think they hate us because of our attitude that we rule the world. They think the US has become too imperialistic and arrogant in its dealings with other countries.Just look at what we did in Iraq, invade without UN approval <schock and awe>. I wonder where we could have gotten all these imperialistic ideas from? Certainly not from the example of ye olde Europe.:rolleyes:
     
  14. AL_DA_GREAT

    AL_DA_GREAT amour absinthe révolution

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    That was an extremely selfish statement, atleast you are honest and you see through GW bush's speaches. It is their oil not yours, You have no right to it.
     
  15. Colonel

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    AL_DA I am refering in a national refrence, compare GDP and Military spending to any other country.

    brennan we can act as we wish because there will never be a point when the entire world tries to take us on be it militarily or economically.

    It is our oil, they just get some money for it, once Iraq is settled where do you really think their oil is going, it sure as hell isn't going to China or Russia, it will be headed straight for the US or Western Europe.
     
  16. Winner

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    What do you want to hear, oh mighty American? :crazyeye:
     
  17. AL_DA_GREAT

    AL_DA_GREAT amour absinthe révolution

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    Which doesn't make it right. Stalin could never be chalenged for that reason. Still he was hated and and he was cruel dictator.
     
  18. bhsup

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    Are you saying the United States is Ken Rex McElroy? :eek:
     
  19. Colonel

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    What is right and what is wrong is decided by the powerful and we are the ultimate power.
     
  20. bhsup

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    NO! Might does not make right. It may very well make most anything else moot, but it certainly doesn't make right.
     
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