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Why is Arawn the patron god of the Sidar?

Discussion in 'Fall from Heaven Lore' started by lumpthing, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. lumpthing

    lumpthing generic lump

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    The FFH wikia claims that Arawn is the patron god of the Sidar. Surely by defying death the Sidar are defying Arawn and the natural, spiritually humbling mortality of all things which I would imagine he represents. Why would the Sidar of all peoples revere the god of something which they at such pains to avoid?

    My guess is that it was Arawn himself who had mercy on the first shade's desire for immortality and made possible the Sidars' sidestepping of Arawn's domain. So therefore the Sidar are eternally indebted and reverent towards Arawn despite the apparent contradiction.

    Also, maybe the Sidar are in a kind of halfway house between life and death, so they feel themselves closer to Arawn.
     
  2. MagisterCultuum

    MagisterCultuum Great Sage

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    Long before they discovered the Books of Laroth and became Shades the Sidar were a group of people who worshiped Arawn. He of course never cared for their worship, so while many Sidar still revere him to some degree or another they generally don't bother worshiping him anymore. Arawn has never done them a favor of any sort, but his Archangel Gyra did once intervene on her own to save them from total destruction at the hands of her twin brother Basium.


    Death is not so much the fate decreed for all living things as it is the manifestation of surrender. It is the opposite of Life, which in FfH terms actually means perseverance and the willingness to sacrifice that which one holds dear for the sake of something greater. Death is about rest and apathy, the willingness to stand by and do nothing while the world passes you by, to stay in one's comfort zone even when one probably should not. Life is active, while Death is passive. Life forces its will on the world, while Death leaves others alone.


    The Sidar kind of immortality is actually more like dying very slowly. Waning causes one to lose all passion, everything that makes one feel alive. It is clinging to that one holds dear at the expense of many greater things. It soon leads to apathy, so shades carry on their old occupations purely out of habit and after centuries of meaningless activities many shades give up on that and just sit still staring off into the distance as they fade almost into nothingness. Many Sidar eventually grow tired of life and thus commit suicide.

    The Sidar know that the Books of Laroth came from the Netherworld, but they don't know about Laroth. They may think that the books were written by ancient priests of Arawn, rather than by the archmage who is currently leading a rebellion in hope of destroying Arawn and usurping his goddood. They have no idea that their souls are being used to force weapons for his army and power the rituals of his eventual ascension.


    The Waning ritual is not actually death magic, but Spirit magic (maybe with a little dimensional thrown in). Death magic is actual UNdeath magic, as it works by preventing the dead from finding rest. The Sidar may be fine with postponing death for themselves, but they abhor the idea of keeping a soul in this world against its will. They oppose death magic more than anyone in Erebus.
     
  3. thomas.berubeg

    thomas.berubeg Wandering the World

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    Magister, do you have any ideas what would be death magic that would be True death magic, as opposed to necromancy?
     
  4. lumpthing

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    Thanks Magister, that's very useful. You're like a mentat in Frank Herbert's Dune.
     
  5. Avahz Darkwood

    Avahz Darkwood Chieftain

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    Here is one I have been wondering for some time. What is Lorath's alignment (evil - good - neutral)? And is it possible that when/if he gains the death godhood, would the nature of death make him more like Arawn or would he be a true patron god to the Sidar. Thus using his powers as per his allignment...
     
  6. lumpthing

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    Is there anything more informative about Lorath and the stories indirectly connected to him other than what's written in this archived thread?
     
  7. Ekolite

    Ekolite The Mighty Jungle

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    I think Laroth is probably one of the most interesting characters in FFH lore, it's a shame that he doesn't feature in the game itself. A modmod or scenario set in the Netherworld would be interesting I think.
     

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