Why is calligraphy not taught in schools?

[Tomoyo]

First of all cursive is becoming obselete, nobody needs to or has to write long letters or reports by hand.

The only time people need to write are personal notes, or to fill in applications where print if fine.

Typing on the computer is the way of the of the future (Actually present and recent past also).

What if you needed to write a love letter? Real letters are more romantic than emails. Are you gonna type that? Print? Eww. Use cursive.

With the word processor, cursive is pretty much completely obsolete. Maybe having kids sign their names is worthwhile, but honestly, noone gives a rat's ass how terrible your signature is.

Yes, sadly, it is becoming obselete. But people will still need to write things in the future (the near future).

How?

Calligraphy is completely and utterly useless.

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Art is actually useful from an aesthetic point of view, i beileve basic art should be tought.

But people are writing less and less so calligraphy is a dying art, and im glad.

Calligraphy is also useful from an aesthetic point of view, because people write more often than they draw!

 

[Babbler]

That's because you're not practiced enough. The whole reason why cursive exists is because people found printing to be too slow. It's faster to write without having your pen leave the paper.

Actually, I used to write in cursive script in grade school, long after my peer abandoned it. IIRC, switched back to print around secondary 4-5, for said reasons.

 

[Tomoyo]

Well, having poor hand writing makes little boys not want to write, which discourages them from going into the arts, which pushes them into the sciences, where they should be. Now if we could only find a form of writing even girls couldn't do, the world would be a better place.

Or they might acquire ADD from their bad handwriting and go commit suicide.

I can write very quickly printing, but am slower using cursive. Practise improves speed?

Isn't that true with pretty much anything?

I hate reading cursive.

I like reading cursive. Only good cursive, though.

 

[Atlas14]

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What? How does that answer my question? How does calligraphy help with the SATs?

 

[Perfection]

Yeah, but Art's even more useless. At least calligraphy can help you on the SATs.

Art's not useless! Art skills essential to making visual aids for presentations.

 

[Splime]

I hate reading cursive.

I'd have to agree. Print is clear and concise. Maybe when handwritten, it may not be neat with some people, but look at this font that's being used. Note that it's print, and not cursive.

 

[Tomoyo]

Actually, I used to write in cursive script in grade school, long after my peer abandoned it. IIRC, switched back to print around secondary 4-5, for said reasons.

Hmm, that's weird. Cursive by definition has to be faster, though. It simply wouldn't exist if it wasn't.

 

[Technocactus]

I hate reading cursive and calligraphy. Print is way better, and ideallyit'll be computer typed.

 

[Atlas14]

Hmm, that's weird. Cursive by definition has to be faster, though. It simply wouldn't exist if it wasn't.

Cursive for me was more prone to having mistakes in the formation of letters, and I too was forced to write in cursive for 2 yrs. and I switched back. Cursive was much slower because I would constantly be making errors in the formation of pretty little letters.

 

[Tomoyo]

What? How does that answer my question? How does calligraphy help with the SATs?

On the SAT, there is a thing that you have to sign and write a long sentence in cursive in. It doesn't count for your grade, except that if it's illegible, your test is technically invalid.

Art's not useless! Art skills essential to making visual aids for presentations.

You'll have to explain this one.

I'd have to agree. Print is clear and concise. Maybe when handwritten, it may not be neat with some people, but look at this font that's being used. Note that it's print, and not cursive.

Computerized font is different. No one handwrites in Arial. But written cursive is much prettier than written print, and therefore is more pleasing to read.

 

[Splime]

Computerized font is different. No one handwrites in Arial. But written cursive is much prettier than written print, and therefore is more pleasing to read.

Yeah, but with computers, we use arial, because it's better than cursive.

Also, cursive being pleasing to read is extremely subjective. Many of us much prefer print.

 

[Perfection]

What if you needed to write a love letter? Real letters are more romantic than emails. Are you gonna type that? Print? Eww. Use cursive.

there are plenty of romantic substitutes for love letters.

Yes, sadly, it is becoming obselete. But people will still need to write things in the future (the near future).

Yeah, but the small amount that needs to be handwritten can be done in print.

 

[Atlas14]

On the SAT, there is a thing that you have to sign and write a long sentence in cursive in. It doesn't count for your grade, except that if it's illegible, your test is technically invalid.

I would be willing to bet that more people have trouble reading cursive than print.

 

[Irish Caesar]

Sorry if it looks like I'm picking on you, it's nothing personal!

Yeah, but Art's even more useless. At least calligraphy can help you on the SATs.

Art being useless is an assertion that won't win you a whole lot of friends, I don't think...

There's more to art than painting and such. Calligraphy is but a small subset of art.

The reason why no one uses it is because no one can use it.That's because you're not practiced enough. The whole reason why cursive exists is because people found printing to be too slow. It's faster to write without having your pen leave the paper.

Perhaps printing is good enough for most people. When you write things for a long time, you tend to develop a system that works quickly enough for your purposes. How often are you going to need to write faster than the print you've developed over years? I take notes in class in handwritten print, it's never been too slow for me.

What if you needed to write a love letter? Real letters are more romantic than emails. Are you gonna type that? Print? Eww. Use cursive.

Cleopatra has never had a problem with my printing!

And of course, typing a love letter is a huge

On the SAT, there is a thing that you have to sign and write a long sentence in cursive in. It doesn't count for your grade, except that if it's illegible, your test is technically invalid.

Does the College Board honestly throw out your exam if you print the thing?

 

[Technocactus]

But written cursive is much prettier than written print, and therefore is more pleasing to read.

I find print more pleasing to read. It's subjective.

 

[Perfection]

Or they might acquire ADD from their bad handwriting and go commit suicide.

I didn't. And I had to use that goddamn stuff for 3 years almost exclusively

I like reading cursive. Only good cursive, though.

Well, I like not wasting a good chunk of my childhood on someting I hate and never use.

 

[Perfection]

Hmm, that's weird. Cursive by definition has to be faster, though. It simply wouldn't exist if it wasn't.

It's faster for people with really good handwriting, unlike clumsy types like me who needed to take forever to write something that didn't look like utter crap.

 

[Babbler]

For the record: I don't have anything against calligraphy, or calligraphy as an elective subject in secondary schools. I just don't see the need for it as a mandatory subject in primary school, especially factoring other, more vital needs.

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

I don't know, because there is a finite amount of time in school and there are LOTS of things to teach?

I would say increasing gym time is more important in order to decrease health care costs.

 

[Tomoyo]

Yeah, but with computers, we use arial, because it's better than cursive.

Also, cursive being pleasing to read is extremely subjective. Many of us much prefer print.

If you like print, fine. End of my argument there.

there are plenty of romantic substitutes for love letters.

But that requires thinking. Love letters are alliterative and obvious.

Yeah, but the small amount that needs to be handwritten can be done in print.

But print is ugly.

I would be willing to bet that more people have trouble reading cursive than print.

Yeah, but how much of that is the fault of people not knowing how to write cursive?

Sorry if it looks like I'm picking on you, it's nothing personal!

Don't worry, it doesn't!

Art being useless is an assertion that won't win you a whole lot of friends, I don't think...

There's more to art than painting and such. Calligraphy is but a small subset of art.

I was actually inspired to create this thread because I read an essay about why Asian animators can clean up images more easily than Western animators. Calligraphy supplements Art.

Perhaps printing is good enough for most people. When you write things for a long time, you tend to develop a system that works quickly enough for your purposes. How often are you going to need to write faster than the print you've developed over years? I take notes in class in handwritten print, it's never been too slow for me.

But think of what could have been if you had been indoctrinated with cursive from the beginning, with a dip pen or a fountain pen.

Cleopatra has never had a problem with my printing!

And of course, typing a love letter is a huge

Actually, I've printed my love letters.

Does the College Board honestly throw out your exam if you print the thing?

Only if there is any suspicion foul play.