No seriously...it'll never happen. Why do you think that games like Dwarf Fortress exist, an ascii style deep strategy game. That will never have the money pumped into it to produce such a "pretty" product as Civ5, and it has been in beta limbo for years and years. Still a damn fine game though. Your average minded person doesn't want to think. Seriously, I'm a school teacher...I see the desire to be spoonfed education in at least 80% of the kids I teach, and they'd be happy if I let them (not that I do). The modders here are great though, and the framework that they've been presented with is going to be a fantastic game in two or three years time.