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Why Should How Much I Tip Somebody Depend on How Much My Food Costs

I would just like to point out that we remember who tips and who does not tip, and not tipping is a bad idea if you want anything resembling good service and warm food when you come next time.
 
Sounds like tips are more like blackmail. If you do not want spit in your pizza you better tip.
 
Dunno how it works in other states, but here, tip-earning jobs earn half min wage.
 
Dunno how it works in other states, but here, tip-earning jobs earn half min wage.

It varies state to state. Some states have a very low minimum wage for gratuity-oriented jobs. Here in Washington State, though, we get full minimum wage ($7.93/hr) plus tips, which for me worked out to about $25/hr when I was at my nice place and $15/hr at this crappy casino I worked at for a few weeks this summer.
 
What CubsFan said in the OP. But adjusted for quality of service, of course. I don't go per-item, but just by a gut feel for how complex it was to serve me. Like, if I said, burn it, hold the mayo, extra pickle, and they remembered all that, that means bigger tip.
 
Is this true? Sounds like a bloody cheek to me. If they can't prove you're being tipped they have no grounds to 'assume' to tax you. What happened to your rights?

We have rights? :lol:

Oh you, that's just what we tell the tourists.

The IRS seems to be at times an extra-governmental entity, especially considering there is no law for private citizens to pay taxes, and they're existence is a contradiction of the 13th amendment. Keeping that in mind I hope this flu season is especially bad for them.

I would just like to point out that we remember who tips and who does not tip, and not tipping is a bad idea if you want anything resembling good service and warm food when you come next time.

Attitudes like yours drive away business and eventually you'll lose a job.

Which is why I prefer to cook my own food. It's cheaper and I am not worried about what the psychopath handling the food is going to do, because I am the psychopath handling the food. Having a deep mistrust of people helps this.
 
Darling, the 13th Amendment is part of the Civil War Amendments (13-15). It abolished slavery. It has nothing to do with taxes or anything.

But, oh, taxes are unconstitutional! I mean, come on, read this; Article I, Section 8:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States...
 
Is it really that much harder to carry a 50 dollar steak than 5 dollar taco. I'm going to start tipping per item:


Because servers have to:

1) give part of their tips to the hostess, salad bar attendant (if there is one), the bussers, and the bartender, and how that money is determined is as a percentage of their sales $, as in, how much the items the sold cost, not as a percentage of their tip income.
2) are taxed based on their tips.
3) when you tip your server less than 10%, you are actually costing them money to serve you, because of the above.

That's why.

But, oh, taxes are unconstitutional! I mean, come on, read this; Article I, Section 8:

How does that say that taxes are unconstitutional? :confused:
 
I think he may have meant the 16th Amendment:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Edit: D'oh! I think I understand the point about the 13th Amendment now:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Which, I suppose, you could say paying taxes would be like involuntarily serving for however long it took to earn the amount paid in taxes.
 
How does that say that taxes are unconstitutional? :confused:

You see, a lot of libertarians (maybe it should be in quotes, maybe not, I don't know) believe that taxes are unconstitutional! Bill3000's scheme should still be in anarcho-capitalist mode, which means that it's still relevant. TAXES = UNCONSTITUTIONAL, or what have you.

So by posting that Congress clearly has the power to tax, I was mocking his argument. It's called sarcasm and I guess it's verbal irony.

Quod erat demonstrandum
 
Because servers have to:

1) give part of their tips to the hostess, salad bar attendant (if there is one), the bussers, and the bartender, and how that money is determined is as a percentage of their sales $, as in, how much the items the sold cost, not as a percentage of their tip income.

Only in really crappy restaurants. I would never work in a tip-sharing restaurant.
 
What the hell? You're not going to get boinked simply because you gave them an extra $3.

True that would be prostitution. I'm just nice to the beautiful people. I also enjoy looking at beautiful people.
 
Didn't we already have a reason for why a flat tax sucks?

Here we go:

Bob earns $10 a year.
Jack earns $100 a year.
It costs $8 a year to live.

"Wowzers!" you're thinking. "A flat tax is the most fair. Let's charge a flat rate of 20%!"

Bob gets taxed $2 and is left with $8.
Jack is taxed $20 and is left with $80.

Bob is now borderline while Jack still has plenty of money.

"But no," you say. "That's not what I meant! I meant a flat money tax, and screw the percentages!"

Okay.

Bob earns $10.
Jack earns $100.

A flat tax of $2 would bring Bob down 20% to $8, just barely able to sustain himself.
A flat tax of $2 would bring Jack down 2% to $98 and leave him with even more money to enjoy himself.

See what I mean?
 
I don't think restuarants are exactly comparable to all of society.
 
15% for average service.

bad service and it goes down.

good service and it goes up.

thats how it is supposed to be.
 
I've worked in restaurants gaining tips for a couple years, and I have no idea what woody is talking about. I always got taxed exactly on how much I was tipped, regardless of what percentage it was.

I am getting this from how my mom explained it to me. but maybe she didn't explain it right, or I understood it wrong. In any case, how does tips and taxes work for you.

Also in some cases you can be paid below minimum wage if you get tipped enough at your job to make up the differences. In that case you wouldn't have the choice to report it or not. http://www.dol.gov/wb/faq26.htm
 
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