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Why Should How Much I Tip Somebody Depend on How Much My Food Costs

First off what El J posted. You get what you pay for.
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In Europe this taxi-driver would have never ever been given a tip. He gave no service, let alone above standard service, thus no tip. He seemed quiet agitated that he didn't get a tip from Rolf. Is it normal in the USA to expect a tip for lousy service ?
How was it lousy service? If I was the cabbie I wouldn't have waited for him at the store. There's more money to be made in Vegas by cabbies moving the other services (strip joints pay them a lot to bring people in, shows, clubs etc) other than riding people in their cabs. The guy was typical cheap European and as El J said most people recognize the problem when words come out of their mouth.

I'm really surprised so many people think 15% is the standard. I've always known it to be 20%. If I got <20% I figured either the person was a cheapskate or I had done something wrong.
Right? Eeshh...
 
15% tip is the tradition in most places, some restaurants automatically add 15% to the bill as well.

In Ontario it is now 14% (not officially), because since tax on food was 15%, people would just double the tax as the tip in most cases, and still do now that the tax is only 14%.
 
Question: When a restaurant automatically adds, say, 15% onto the bill as a gratuity, does it go to the waiter/waitress?

Either way, I think I ended up tacking on an extra $10 on what was a $52 bill the last time (even though there was a gratuity added onto it, either way, it was a bang-up job from that guy that night). I've never had problems with tips...I don't see what's up with the arguments against it.
 
The only time I've seen a tip added is when I was with a large group. Their loss since it's usually only 15%.
 
I always feel wary about the added gratuity or writing it onto the bill when using a credit card since I've never seen it explicitly stated that the proceeds would indeed get to the person waiting on me.

It's a moot point for establishments that round up all the tips to split them, but it is something that's been on my mind for a quite a while (I suppose since I rarely eat out and my deliveries are paid in cash).
 
The only time I've seen a tip added is when I was with a large group. Their loss since it's usually only 15%.

I've only ever seen 18% added automatically for large parties.

I was always taught that the standard was 15%; as I only use cash when I go out, the tip is all the coins and enough bills to make it over 15%. Sometimes this means closer to 16, sometimes this means closer to 20.

You've got to screw up more than once to get less than 15, I think.

Well, except for the one time I was out and the waitress just plain left. I was quite confused, and finally went up to the front counter to take care of the check. Apparently she had gone out on an errand and simply forgot about us. Anyway, the front desk asked if I wanted to leave a tip... I smiled, and in a musically cheerful voice, replied, "No thank you!"
 
It just seems crazy to me, to expect a tip. I use to do a paper run, and i got tips sometimes but it was always like a bonus, i was never expecting it.

When does tipping go to far? Do ya tip bus drivers? do ya tip the checkout person at a supermarket? do ya tip the rubbish man or mail lady?
 
I always feel wary about the added gratuity or writing it onto the bill when using a credit card since I've never seen it explicitly stated that the proceeds would indeed get to the person waiting on me.

It's a moot point for establishments that round up all the tips to split them, but it is something that's been on my mind for a quite a while (I suppose since I rarely eat out and my deliveries are paid in cash).
The laws probably vary by state but in Minnesota the tip is always the legal property of the person tipped, though management can suggest to the server that if they don't tip out the bussers they may not have many more shifts.

If the house is keeping the credit card tips the person doing that can go to prison for theft.
 
I'm really surprised so many people think 15% is the standard. I've always known it to be 20%. If I got <20% I figured either the person was a cheapskate or I had done something wrong.

15% is the standard as far as I know.

I've never heard of 20%.

A 20% tip is for exceptional service, imo. I leave a 20% tip from time to time.

Hell, I gave an 80% tip the other day because the waitress was so nice to me.

j_eps said:
some restaurants automatically add 15% to the bill as well.

I've never ever seen this happen, but have heard that it happens with larger parties at some places.

IMO it is bad form - it's a gratuity, not a tax.
 
The laws probably vary by state but in Minnesota the tip is always the legal property of the person tipped, though management can suggest to the server that if they don't tip out the bussers they may not have many more shifts.

If the house is keeping the credit card tips the person doing that can go to prison for theft.

Good stuff. I had heard otherwise, but it may only be silly rumor or state differences.

At least I know it's in those hands next time I'm there.
 
15% is the standard, Fifty is just the greedy version of server.

I dunno. I talked to my sister (several years as server at very high end places) and she said 20%, I asked my dad (30+ years in the foodservice industry--he owned a brokerage firm and has been to more restaurants around the country than anybody I've ever known that isn't a restaurant critic by profession) and he said 20%, I've always known it to be 20%, my roommates (6yrs serving between them) and they said 20% as well. Heck I might see the executive chef at the place I used to work at this weekend, I'll ask him too!

Maybe its just 15% for you cheapskates in flyover territory :p
 
Maybe its just 15% for you cheapskates in flyover territory :p
It doesn't matter, our servers are tough enough that they can handle a six table section in the best fine dining restaurants in the city. So they still make more money.:p
 
the best fine dining restaurants in the city.

Which is like an Old Country Buffet or something by midwest standards, right?

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Which is like an Old Country Buffet or something by midwest standards, right?

Spoiler :
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It's Cracker Barrel, get it right! :joke:
 
Hmmph well fifty If I ever come near you you there is no way your getting my normal 20% yours getting the 10-15% poor service.. You have a midwesterner that agrees with your 20% tip and you insult them just before he gets to post.
 
I don't think I should enter this conversation as I tip way over what I should generally. The last 5 or 6 times i have eaten at a restaurant I doubled the bill in tip. 20 dollar tip for a 10 meal.
 
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