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Willem the Oranje Clown

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by axident, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. axident

    axident Emperor

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    Am I the only one who thinks of a circus when Willem (Dutch) comes knocking? It's hard to take a leader seriously when there is clown music going on in the background. :D
     
  2. Tristan daCunha

    Tristan daCunha Pacifist Aggressive

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    Hey, at least he isn't wearing jester's cap like Montezuma!
     
  3. axident

    axident Emperor

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    That would be the ultimate combo... Willem wearing the jester's cap with the clown music blaring. :lol:
     
  4. klokwerk

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    :lol:

    So right, it's hard to feel threatened with such background music. Let's sell him elephants for the circus.
     
  5. axident

    axident Emperor

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    C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Assets\Sounds\Diplomacy

    I've gone back and it's really only his Late-era theme that sounds circus-y... it took him a while to run off and join the circus. ;)
     
  6. Grimus

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    haha, very true... it's funny, because when I first saw pictures of him I thought his diplo music was going to be some sort of dark, gloomy, depressing music!
     
  7. klokwerk

    klokwerk Prince

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    Maybe we can mod him a red nose. :D
     
  8. axident

    axident Emperor

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    Krusty the Clown lives! (Dark and gloomy personal life.)
     
  9. GeneralMatt

    GeneralMatt Emperor

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    It is not clown music. It is a Hymn which were extremely important in that day. I actually like it..
     
  10. klokwerk

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    Okay, no disrespect intended. :mischief:


    :lol:
     
  11. axident

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    No disrespect, either. And I like it too! But it's so inappropriate when it's playing and Willem is threatening you with war. I think the game designers picked better-balanced diplo tunes for everyone else so that it's more neutral and less apt to clash with the text, is all. :)
     
  12. GeneralMatt

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    Yeah I know. :p I like the liveliness of it and think it would be a fun hymn to sing (We still sing some amazing ones at church, and even though most young people like the Rock and stuff, this young person really thinks hymns are nice. :p Yeah I know I am different...

    I haven't played enough, but yeah it would be funny that going on and him trying to look mean..
     
  13. Chiyu

    Chiyu Prince

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    Willem's circus music is awesome! It's so cheerful and gold-saucer-like (from FF7)!
     
  14. GoodSarmatian

    GoodSarmatian Jokerfied Western Male

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    It is almost as funny as Roosevelts music...
     
  15. axident

    axident Emperor

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    Yeah but he gets militaristic-sounding drums at least :p
     
  16. skallben

    skallben Diplomat

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    It sounds like some silly street parade in some redneck town, I must admit I cannot take him seriously either.
     
  17. Spearthrower

    Spearthrower Thrower of spears

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    Having been in the Netherlands at carnival time, I can assure you that this tune is very realistic!!

    It was a great experience that taught me..... that Brazilian style carnival is infinitely cooler than northern Europe style carnival!! :D
     
  18. The Almighty dF

    The Almighty dF Pharaoh

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    I too think circus upon talking with him, but it could be worse.
    When anyone from that empire of furniture talks to me I think winamp has opened itself and played "We're An American Band"

    Oh Turkey, making me think 70's music when you want to make peace. Not very smart.
     
  19. Sabretou

    Sabretou Warlord

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    I sort of like Willem's overall design and music. I know it sounds somewhat funny, though. :p
     
  20. Comrade Aart

    Comrade Aart Civ1 diplomat

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    :lol:

    I don't have BtS myself yet, but from the reactions I have the idea the music is based on street organs (it does sound "circusy"). Does the music sound something like this:

    http://www.museumspeelklok.nl/speelklok/ringtones/limonair.mp3
    (yes, the melody is not Dutch ;) )
    http://www.museumspeelklok.nl/speelklok/ringtones/heizmann.mp3

    At the museum this link is of, they told me the Netherlands is one of the only (or the last) nation in (Western) Europe where street organs are still common in public. If you go to a market in the Netherlands (which is larger than 3 stands) there is often one of these.

    I was already hoping that it would be the music for the Dutch in BtS. :D
     

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