Hello, I have now just finished my fourth game -- I have played one each on Chieftan, Warlord, Regent, and Monarch -- with yet again another Diplomatic victory. This game, at least, wasnt a complete pushover. I did, however, find it much easier and "better" (as described shortly below) to achieve a Diplo-Vic than anything else other than military (which I wont do unless pushed to it by the AIs, and if that should happen consistently on higher levels, I will probably end up quitting the game, since I really truly dislike Civ3 as a wargame). The context: I play Civ3 Vanilla, will soon start my fifth game on Emporer. Have played standard maps so far, each time with me being Egypt on a middle continental map with the normal (7?) random opponents. Why I am posting: At the beginning of this last game, Monarch, I swore: I will try a different Victory than Diplo this game. I will go for Space Race. Reason for above: I found it very easy to win Diplo in the other games and wanted to try a new victory which was not military (for above reasons). Actually, I wanted to try that last game too (Regent), but the game just got so BORING during the last phase that I just couldnt resist building the UN and holding elections, since I found it very easy to bribe the others into liking you. But this game (Monarch), too, had me as the clear winner when going into Modern Times. And I just couldnt bear to finish out the whole Space tech; I had build a lot of Spearmen back then, since I concentrated on getting the Workshop, and had an army of Mech Infantry and a whole bunch of tanks, while the others were still running about with Infantry or worse; I had a huge empire of happy citizens with tons of extra resources of all types and every single tile covered with nice little railroads and whatnot, and I was leading in tech. So I couldnt resist building the UN, agreeing to a bunch of MPPs or giving otherwise nice bribes, and then ending the game, because it seems to me that once you have RRs everywhere, there isnt really very much of anything else to do. I couldnt deal with playing the turns out to the end of the Space Race, so Diplo again. So my question is: BESIDES MILITARY, what Victory Conditions would you suggest for my fifth game (Emperor)? (I have read that the jump from Monarch to Emp is tough, and I suppose that is good. I found Monarch to be challenging during Ancient and to some degree Renaissance, but then a pushover. Just so you know, I dont want to sound cocky, since I KNOW I AM STILL A NEWB.) I just want to know: - Do you folks every get other Victories other than Diplo, - and is there consensus that Diplo is the easiest - or does that all change with higher diff levels - and what would you suggest for me? Thanks!