Woman buried in snowbank survives for 3 days

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OTTAWA (Reuters) – A Canadian woman managed to survive for three days buried deep in a snowbank, most likely because the snow helped to insulate her, police said on Tuesday.

Donna Molnar, 55, was last seen on Friday when she left her home west of Toronto in a snowstorm to get baking supplies. Her van was found abandoned by the side of a windswept rural road late the next day.

Police scoured the nearby area for two days and said they had all but given up hope on Monday when a search dog called Ace began to bark at a snowdrift about 200 meters (220 yards) from where the van had been found.

Rescuers approaching the spot found Molnar, who was suffering from hypothermia. She is now in hospital in serious but stable condition.

"That deep snow may very well have been what insulated her enough to keep her core temperature high enough that she survived the three days," said Staff Sergeant Mark Cox of the police force in Hamilton, Ontario.

Cox told the Canadian Broadcasting Corp that it appeared Molnar had become disoriented in the snowstorm and may have left her vehicle to get help.

"I have to admit that we were losing hope that we'd find her alive ... we felt that we might simply be trying to give closure to the family at that point," Cox said.

And what of Ace, the search dog?

"I'm told on good authority he's looking at a T-bone dinner for this one," Cox said.
 
Wasn't she aware that practically the entire country has been having blizzard and/or extreme windchill conditions? My own city was basically isolated because of severe driving conditions on the highways, and we were told emphatically to STAY HOME unless it was an emergency -- and not to go out on the highway because of all the accidents that had already caused a several-hours' delay in getting anywhere.

Must've been some important baking...
 
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Why do people leave their cars?
 
The snowbank probably insulated her and saved her life.

I remember being in one of our Snow Forts when the plow came by and piled more snow on top of us. Thankfully we didn't suffocate and neither did she! :D
 
Why do people leave their cars?
Lots of reasons, but usually because they think they'll freeze in the car, or they think they'll get help faster by walking out. It rarely seems to work, though. There's a case of a woman, Rhonda Runningbird, who had her children with her in their vehicle when they got stuck in the woods. Rhonda decided to walk out and get help but told the kids to stay with the vehicle.

The kids survived just fine. They never did find Rhonda Runningbird's body.

The snowbank probably insulated her and saved her life.

I remember being in one of our Snow Forts when the plow came by and piled more snow on top of us. Thankfully we didn't suffocate and neither did she! :D
You get snow removal in your residential areas? :eek:
 
Lots of reasons, but usually because they think they'll freeze in the car, or they think they'll get help faster by walking out. It rarely seems to work, though. There's a case of a woman, Rhonda Runningbird, who had her children with her in their vehicle when they got stuck in the woods. Rhonda decided to walk out and get help but told the kids to stay with the vehicle.

The kids survived just fine. They never did find Rhonda Runningbird's body.

A car is much easier to spot than your person. Plus, as long as you have gas, you can start it every few hours and run the heat. Between that and your body temperature, you can keep the interior around 0.


You get snow removal in your residential areas? :eek:

You don't? Ottawa has big snow blower trucks teamed with dump trucks that shave down banks once they get wide enough to narrow a street.
 
On the matter of residential snow removal...

You don't? Ottawa has big snow blower trucks teamed with dump trucks that shave down banks once they get wide enough to narrow a street.
You don't? In Toronto we always got it removed and pushed to the side of the road...
I could point out that Ottawa and Toronto are much larger cities than Red Deer, and therefore they have the budget for residential snow removal as needed. But that would be only a partial solution. As somebody said in a letter to the editor several years ago, it seems to come as a great surprise and shock to City Council that winter (and snow) is something that happens here every year and needs to be budgeted before the snow comes. We've been incredibly spoiled these last 20-25 years, with unusually mild winters, and we're not used to planning for what can really happen when Mother Nature gets cranky.

The way snow removal works here is after a snow dump, the hills get sanded, then the main thoroughfares, the main intersections, and then the bus routes (particularly those that go past the malls). Since I don't live anywhere near a hill, a main thoroughfare, a main intersection, or a bus route, my street MIGHT get plowed ONCE during a winter. And that happens only if 1. City Hall realizes that emergency vehicles can't get through, and 2. If City Hall gets enough angry phone calls and letters to the paper.

I am legally obligated to clear the snow in front of my home within 48 hours of a snowfall, no matter the weather. If I can't do it, I am obliged to arrange to have it done, which may or may not cost $$, depending on who I can get.

The City is supposed to clear the sidewalks in front of its own property, but there are some areas that are pretty lax. It seems to take somebody falling and ending up in the hospital with a broken ankle to make them pay attention.

On the occasions when they do plow in my neighborhood, they pile the snow up in windrows on alternate sides of the street, depending on what year it is and what the house number is; for example, if they plow this year (2008) the windrow will be on the other side of the street from me, because I live in an odd-numbered house. And no, they don't clear the windrows away from in front of peoples' houses; the homeowner has to do that. Several years ago they deposited a pile of snow the length of our property in front of the house, about a meter thick, and over a meter high. And the damn stuff FROZE before we could get to it to clear it away. :gripe: It took a lot of effort to clear it away, and we got most of it before an ice jam started forming in the street. Finally I phoned the City and told them they'd better come and do the rest before our street flooded.

Yes, the people who run our city are idiots...
 
Wow, I feel spoiled. The city does our sidewalks for us. They have baby snow plows for it. Rather cute, really.
 
As somebody said in a letter to the editor several years ago, it seems to come as a great surprise and shock to City Council that winter (and snow) is something that happens here every year and needs to be budgeted before the snow comes. We've been incredibly spoiled these last 20-25 years, with unusually mild winters, and we're not used to planning for what can really happen when Mother Nature gets cranky.

It cracks me up when cities consistently budget for below-average snowfall.

Halifax also amuses me that they run out of room to put the snow every time there's a storm, and have to get special permission to dump it in the harbor... although it's slightly less ironic now that they aren't dumping raw sewage into the water anymore.

Wow, I feel spoiled. The city does our sidewalks for us. They have baby snow plows for it. Rather cute, really.

My town has street cleaning vehicles. Seriously, they drive around at 5am and sweep dirt off the roads.
 
The way snow removal works here is after a snow dump, the hills get sanded, then the main thoroughfares, the main intersections, and then the bus routes (particularly those that go past the malls).

I wish we used sand. They use salt here! In fact Windsor has a big salt mine! Everything rusts!

My town has a deal with the sun to remove snow.

I like this idea better!
 
I wish we used sand. They use salt here! In fact Windsor has a big salt mine! Everything rusts!

You only use sand when it's too cold for salt to melt ice. Valka lives in a place a bit colder than where you or I live.
 
Calgary is in about the same boat as Valka in Red Deer I suppose. City does the main roads, then the bus routes if they're lucky. We didn't see any residential plowing until 8 days after the big snowfalls hit, and then they only did the biggest residential streets that serve the bigger roads.

And on top of that, Calgary managed to be short of sand. :rolleyes:
 
So what all do you do when the roads haven't been plowed? Do you all drive 4wd and just go over the top of it? Because that only works until the snow is up to the undercarriage and then you're stuck. And with storm after storm uncleared seems like you'd get to that pretty fast.

Here, while we get snow, the town and state do a pretty good job of clearing it pretty quick. While a lot of people think they need 4wd, it's really pretty pointless.
 
She did not die, because she is Canadian, and it is a well known fact that snow heals them. However, they are extra vulnerable to fire.
 
So what all do you do when the roads haven't been plowed? Do you all drive 4wd and just go over the top of it? Because that only works until the snow is up to the undercarriage and then you're stuck. And with storm after storm uncleared seems like you'd get to that pretty fast.

Nah, snow packs down pretty good when lots of people drive on it, then you just get ice-coated roads.
 
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