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"Wonder" Woman Thread - The Race to Stonehenge (and Other Assorted Wonders)

Discussion in 'Team Amazon' started by Sommerswerd, May 6, 2010.

  1. damnrunner

    damnrunner Emperor

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    By the time we get spys from the GW we should be running scientis as will which will decrease odds. Realistically, only our 1st wonder will guarantee a cretin type of great person. After that it will be more random and up to the sorts of specialist we decide to run.

    Since we can directly run spies with a courthouse why don't we just plan to do that. CoL will get teched/traded fast in this game and since we plan to do a lot of expansion courthouses will be a high priority anyway.

    My point is - GW is a huge waste on the home island. On the big island it may have some merit - but that choice is too far off to consider.
     
  2. wideyedwanderer

    wideyedwanderer Prince

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    I agree that we should definitely try and build GW on the new landmass instead of the homeland.
     
  3. SilentConfusion

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    Our second city is about to be built this turn, but we can't start building Stonehenge because it was just built this turn by Quatronia. They built it in their size 5 capitol. At least we didn't put any hammers into it yet. We need to rethink what to do with that city now. Do we go for the pyramids or transform it into super settler/worker factory?
     
  4. wideyedwanderer

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  5. SilentConfusion

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    They built it right away in their first city. We could have done that, but we wanted to get a second city out first. It is a trade off. They're also CHA and they are the ones who founded Meditation (we know this for sure now). They'll have lots of early happiness. We now don't have to worry about having a GPro, which wasn't ideal unless we got a religion. I don't think it's so bad that we lost it. I'm quite pleased we lost it before we started so we don't turn our trees into gold and can save them for other things.

    Great Wall is still an option in our Jennilund city. And we can just switch our second city to building the Pyramids after we tech Masonry. Or we can call off the wonder chase and go full settler mode. I think we should go for at least one of those two, GW or 'Mids, maybe both.
     
  6. damnrunner

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    Go for settlers!
     
  7. remake20

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    That's why we can't build it. Cheecky b******.
     
  8. damnrunner

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    We should have guessed that the other cha civ would want to build SH.

    But this worked out ok - I think building it the capitol as they did would have been the wrong call. Right now they have not built a WB or settler and have probably done some chops rather than as many imprvements as we have. It sucks to miss it but it is great that we did not invest any hammers into it 1st.
     
  9. remake20

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    I'm happy to trade SH for some tech trading partners.
     
  10. nabaxo

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    Full settler mode on the home island and GW on Jennilund. Who's with me?
     
  11. Calis

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    me! Me! Me! :D
     
  12. IlBrago

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    Ok also for me!
     
  13. damnrunner

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    Agreed we need to own this landmass!
     
  14. SilentConfusion

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    I was looking at this page and the way the description of the Great Wall is worded says "Prevents barbarians from entering borders." It does not say "Prevents barbarians from entering borders on this continent." For instance Notre Dame says "+1 :) in all cities on this continent." Have we been thinking incorrectly that the Great Wall only works on the continent that it is built on?

    I will do some testing right now. Because this is important to know.

    EDIT: I didn't test it, but in the in-game Civilopedia it clearly does say "on this continent" so I would guess that it is only good for the continent, therefore that link should say that.
     
  15. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    As I have said before... I HAVE tested this. GW only protects cities on the same continent. GW is even more attractive now, because if we build it as our first wonder we are guranteed to get a Great Spy.
     
  16. remake20

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    But if we run scientists...
     
  17. damnrunner

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    I propose a poll on whether or not we consider building the GW on our home island. I think Sommers is the main advocate for this and this debate on wonders is distracting from other discussions on what our cities should be doing.
     
  18. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    Our first Great person will come quickly regardless of where we fun the :gp: points or what kind we run. GW only gives great spy points. We can't run scientists because we don't have Writing. And we might not tech writing if we are planning on getting it from Sirius. If that is the case, then we would have built GW long before Writing. So the 'if we run scientists' thing is probably moot.

    No body is advocating getting GW on the home island. Everyone who wants GW know that we maximize the benefit by putting GW in Jennilund. That's why I have not presented a detailed plan forGW yet because we need Dora to explore the land first so I know how many chops there are etc... if I was advocating GW on Diana's islandI would have put up a complete plan like I did for SH. However... if you want to poll it anyway just for the fun of it...:mischief:
     
  19. damnrunner

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    OK I thought you were still pushing for it on the homeland.
     
  20. Norton I

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    I think for now we should focus on optimal expansion... the GW has great benefits but we don't have to decide it now. With our boats exploring Jennilund we will learn more about that landmass every turn and each piece of information can change our view on what will be the best step forward.

    Another thing we should prioritize is to find and claim horses. We might want to get Dora on Jennilund asap.
     

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