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World War II 1939 - A Civilization IV Moddification

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Creation & Customization' started by asioasioasio, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. asioasioasio

    asioasioasio Fallout Scrubber

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    Lol yes i wanted to use quote from wikipedia too.
    I was searching long what sign could be good for fascism - of course swastika was the first idea... but i've made some research in internet and learned that the name of fascism came from roman word fasces wich look like "axe on a tribal pole" :).

    I tought it would better to use fasces cause the sign was adopted by mussolini, and he get power much quicker than hitler
     
  2. wotan321

    wotan321 Chieftain

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    I think your choice for the button is a good one. As can be seen from the Fascist architecture of the time, they very much admired the ancient Romans.
     
  3. jimkatalanos

    jimkatalanos F.C. BARCELONA

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    I can't wait till this mod is ready.I would like to suggest that the symbol for the axis to be a swastika. The Roman fasces symbol with the axe was only used by Italy.Look at this italian army photo.Also how the Italian flag will look like?
    This is how Italian fascist flag looked like.
     

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  4. wotan321

    wotan321 Chieftain

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    I hear what you are saying, but by the same token the swastika was only used by Germany. Certainly the common symbol used to represent the Axis is the swastika, but is that fair and accurate? How about the eagle? Was that a common symbol of the two dictatorships?
     
  5. Tahuti

    Tahuti Writing Deity

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    Jim, your Italian flag is incorrect, because its the flag of the RSI (Republica Socialistica Italia) which was Italy in the period 1944-1945. The flag of the Kingdom of Sardinia (featuring the Italian tricoloure and an orange shield in the middle is a better flag for Italy.
     
  6. ParkCungHee

    ParkCungHee Chieftain

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    Not true. Its used in America as well.
     
  7. knigh+

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    About the map...

    Actually this is a valid comment for all maps in all mods.

    To be realistic, avoid using "Mercator" or "Gall's Sterographic" projection maps. Because these, while looking nice, distort the areas and distances as you approach the poles, giving you a Scandinavia the size of Arabia, or a Greenland the size of South America (Hardner's map above seems like Mercator projection)

    For this scenario, I suggest using "Peters" or "Lambert Azimuthal Equal Area" projection (to get the second one, you might need to take a screenshot from GoogleEarth).

    Here is a website (first hit in google search) about map projections for everybody without any idea of what I'm talking about:

    http://www.colorado.edu/geography/gcraft/notes/mapproj/mapproj_f.html


    I loved maps way before uncle Sid made the first civ :)
     
  8. knigh+

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    correction to the last one for the interested few people: I think GoogleEarth gives conical, not azimuthal, but it is still much better than all the civmaps I've ever seen.
     
  9. jimkatalanos

    jimkatalanos F.C. BARCELONA

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    Well, theoratically Italy and Germany were equals in their alliance.However,
    the truth is that Germany was the leader of the axis.Italian troops played the role of garissons in the conquered areas and helped Germany in north Africa.
    Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Powers to find info.I believe that the eagle would be pretty fair as a symbol.The left image is the insignia of the german armed forces and the right one is the insingia of the italian armed forces.Both of them were also used from members of the nazi and fascist party.
     

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  10. jimkatalanos

    jimkatalanos F.C. BARCELONA

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    About the Italian flag. The flag with the eagle was used by the Italian army
    in north Africa and in Greece. I know that the Italian flag was that with the cross but I suggested the other flag because the army will play the most important role.
     

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  11. LuKo

    LuKo The Royal Guard

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    I think, that Roman faces is better symbol ofthis ideology, than swatika. Swastika will be German flag, but ideology wasn't only German.
     
  12. ParkCungHee

    ParkCungHee Chieftain

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    Actually the ideologies were considerably distinct, so a swastika works just as well as a fasces, if not better.
     
  13. knigh+

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    Why dont you make up something nice for the axis flag?

    I suggest enlarging the white part of the Italian flag towards both sides and and putting a black swastika instead of the shield. That way it won't belong to just one of the axis powers, and yet it will remind both.
     
  14. wotan321

    wotan321 Chieftain

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    Here is a button I got from another mod I believe.... will it suffice?

     
  15. Temujin_Khan

    Temujin_Khan The Great Khan

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    yay a WWII mod. i could help with xml if you need it. im also working on my own mod that is base on the WWII era to the future era i could use alot of ur WWII units for my mod could you post a download or pm me.;) btw how much longer until we can download the mod.
     
  16. jimkatalanos

    jimkatalanos F.C. BARCELONA

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    I have been working on a WW2 scenario for 2 weeks.All the leaderheads
    and flags are the ones of 1941.I have even found the flags of Vichy France and of Free France. There is only one leaderhead I can't find, the leaderhead of Petain(leader of Vichy France).Does anybody know someone who has developed it?
    Also, I don't mind if the leaderhead is General Weygand (general of Vichy France).
     
  17. Splinter13

    Splinter13 The Learner

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    Are you just looking for a pic? or an animated LH. I know in the desert campaign in Civ4 vanilla there is a still pic of General Weygand. Pehaps you could use that :)
     
  18. aod

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    Thats a very nice projects, but I found the textures of the units lacking. Blitzkrieg (a german RTS) has lots of nice textures for their units, and there are several texture packs available (and open): http://www.blitzkrieg-portal.co.uk/

    Maybe u could use them (or the 3d models)
     
  19. Splinter13

    Splinter13 The Learner

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    @aod Thanks, It's possible some of these skins will go into the mod. Thank you :D
     
  20. asioasioasio

    asioasioasio Fallout Scrubber

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    sorry but i haven't much time to answer your suggestions and questions lately :(

    and about flags - each country would have of course his own flag
    for italy we will use flag from post 130 wich was used for kingdom of italy (official name of country) to year 1944.
    of course for germany it will bee red flag with white circle and swastika inside.
    the symbol of fasces will be used only for axis ideologies/alliances. About eagle - i think it's to common to make it symbol of axis (and doesn't fit japan) :/.
    I looked to hearts of iron I (the game i think is the best ww2 strategy, hmm maybe hearts of iron 2 is better :p) and the've used similliar symbols for comintern fascist and west allies - so i think the idea with fasces isn't so bad ewentually swastika - but fasces was earlier used by fascist than swastika:p

    @Temujin_Khan
    about units - most of them are published on civfanatics/graphics forum

    @ aod
    thx aod for link - it'll help with many texters and will save a lot of time :)

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