Would you stay or flee?

Stay for the Draft or Flee?


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King Alexander said:
Yes, I'd join, but not because I love the military or I do love wars: I'd want to protect my family, and the ideas/culture/way of life we have, if invaded.
that's excatly what I meant. a draft wouldn't be needed, since you felt that joining the army would be worth it so you join voluntary. if the country needs to force you to defend your home, there's something wrong with the country...

Look, there're a few things that people don't understand or confuse: a country provides it's citizens with security, rights, jobs, whatever...but that doesn't mean it's citizens have NO obligation towards their country: the only thing their country expects from them is to protect it if invaded, and I find it very logical. That's the way I see it.
and taxes, don't forget taxes ;)
but all of this only applies in a purely defensive war, what if your country installed a draft for a war abroad?
 
If I am in Singapore during the event and if it was because of war with the neighbours Malaysia or Indonesia, I would join and desert when the first opportunity comes up. Having trained for 2.5 years as a combat engineer and bridging specialist, i understand that in a real war, my role in it would almost surely kill me(as a mine prodder with a little metal stick).
 
probably bugger off unless the propganda's got to me.
 
KaeptnOvi said:
that's excatly what I meant. a draft wouldn't be needed, since you felt that joining the army would be worth it so you join voluntary. if the country needs to force you to defend your home, there's something wrong with the country...
It's not a matter that should be optional, either, for me. I find it very logical the state to demand such a thing(the people make the laws, so they also don't mind).
A state that needs to force it's citizens to defend it, doesn't worth it to be saved and has failed to make the brain of it's citizens to think logically and not selfishly(first goes the common welfare, and then the individual welfare, at some cases, and besides, without an existing country, someone couldn't become rich with individual means).
KaeptnOvi said:
and taxes, don't forget taxes ;)
but all of this only applies in a purely defensive war, what if your country installed a draft for a war abroad?
Ah yes, I forgot taxes! Maybe that tells how much I love them! :rolleyes:

I wouldn't support a war abroad. We should respect international laws, respect other nations and their borders/domination inside their territory and have good relations with them.
(Of course, if an enemy country strikes/bombs inside our ground first, and we then invade them at a counterattack, that's still a defensive war).
 
Depends on the war.

Since I am going by the present state of our affairs. I would flee this country if there was ever a draft reinstated for Gulf War II.
 
CivGeneral said:
Depends on the war.

Since I am going by the present state of our affairs. I would flee this country if there was ever a draft reinstated for Gulf War II.

Honest question do you or any US citizens think the US would ever institute a draft for an unpopular war again after the damage the last one did?

If it reintroduced the draft for a "just" war, by that I mean a UN suported or generally condoned conflict such Gulf war I: The Fight for Freedom rather than Gulf War II: The Truth is what?Erm This Time it's Personal?
 
Sidhe said:
Honest question do you or any US citizens think the US would ever institute a draft for an unpopular war again after the damage the last one did?
no. it'll be a cold day in hell (or a world war 3) when the draft gets re-instated.
 
The only way I can see a draft again is if it's a World War, and therefore our lives would depend on it. Probably would fight. Would have to be convinced though, as I otherwise wouldn't care and would rather avoid barbaric rituals.
 
It'd depend on the War. If it is something like Vietnam or Iraq, which I am personally opposed to, I am not going to fight. However, if I feel we are in the right for participating the war, give me a gun and tell me where to go.
 
As I said before, it's selfish to leave your fellow countrymen to die in a struggle while you flee to another country, and frankly, it's cowardly. I would stay and fight instead of hiding in another country like a coward.
 
Red Stranger said:
As I said before, it's selfish to leave your fellow countrymen to die in a struggle while you flee to another country, and frankly, it's cowardly. I would stay and fight instead of hiding in another country like a coward.

so dose that mean youre gonna join the army soon?
 
This thread is evidence of the ever-lowering testosterone levels & sperm count with each passing generation of human males in modern times.

If this was December, 1941 - I think we might be screwed. Then again, the ranks of the Axis powers would be full of pansies, too - wouldn't they? :hmm:
 
Lotus49 said:
This thread is evidence of the ever-lowering testosterone levels & sperm count with each passing generation of human males in modern times.

If this was December, 1941 - I think we might be screwed. Then again, the ranks of the Axis powers would be full of pansies, too - wouldn't they? :hmm:

ohyeah you are so above modern day comforts and trends my well hydrated water bottle toting friend! :D
 
Jawz II said:
ohyeah you are so above modern day comforts and trends my well hydrated water bottle toting friend! :D

Coincidentally, I actually have a 1-liter water bottle on EACH side of the keyboard I'm typing on right now. One is almost empty, but the other is still 60% full.

Purified water, naturally.

Chalk one up to your potential psychic powers.
 
I just took them, about 15 mintues ago, with a small meal. Man! Maybe my life is too simple, and too predictable...
 
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