Ok, this will be the last post I do on this particular subject (though its not realy the same topic I started with

) but feel free to post your response.
Everyone has thier own interpretataion of history, based on thier own subjective world view. The problem of the last 100 years is that people have been under the illusion that you can have an "objective" view of history. It's not going to happen, and to belive that it is possible is to ignore the underlying subjective nature of every person's worldview (especialy in our postmodern world). I value your subjective view, and it is interesting how it relates to mine, in someways corelating, in others totaly irreconcilable. That is what makes history and political, social and personal analisis so intersting.
That said, I meant to say Britain, not England.

My Grandfather, uncle and Great Uncle all served in the scots guards. My Uncle even performed a tour of Ireland during the 1980s and witnessed the troubles at thier worst.
The Conflict in Ireland was once based on Religion, and on the fact that we spoke different languages, and that the english had occupied a soverign country. (This will allways lead to this sort of conflict and rejection, as we have seen in Iraq). Today the conflict in Ireland is not based on that at all. It is, like the fight for the basque country, or the conflict in the middle east or the balkans, based on a history of conflict. This sort of conflict breeds resentment and hatred on both sides, it is a war that is self perpetuating. Hopefully, we will have a cease fire in Ireland long enough for a generation to grow up who know nothing of the troubles, only from history passed down from thier parents. That is the only way to find peace, both here and in the other trouble spots in the world.
Britain has always been a hotchpotch; In the early centuries there were settlers from the Baltic, who settled here and in the Basque country in spain, then there were celts, and the romans, then the vikings, anglosaxons (in fact only a small minority in our history), the normans (yet more vikings!), Jews and protestants fleeing from the continent (the jews were expeled by longshanks, but later readmitted), and from the age of sail onwards thousands of minorities arived by boat along with thier cargo's. They found a country that although seemingly ruled by an anglo saxon(ish) elite was actualy comprised of dozens of minorities.
In this way, Eastern europe is a little like britain, it is a land that has suffered thousands of influxes of "barbarians" from the east, dozens of conqerings by "civilizised nations" to the west, and now has little in common in any one area other than language and religion.
It's up to you whether you belive that the slavs and the czechs could have laid thier differnces aside and fought together against the mutual enemy, the fact is that they would always have had problems with enthnic germans in the Sudetenland, and would not have survived long as a single nation. But I think they could have held out long enough to give the germans a bloody nose (baring bad weather, or acts of god) had they been given suport from other nations.
In summary;
War for the conquest of other peoples; Bad
War for the defence of your own or other peoples from conquest; Good.
I hope we can all agree, at least partly, on that.