Yale made a stand in support of anti-gay laws; SJWs slammed

[aelf]

In the bizarro world that is the Far East, SJWs have popped up demanding that homosexuality be decriminalised. The public doesn't seem to take too well to such demands.

A member of the Yale-NUS College board defended Singapore's anti-homosexuality laws in the United Nations' Human Rights Council in Geneva. Some people in the college, being pro-homosexual agenda or something, were not happy about it and called for her to resign as a member of the college board. This in turn created a furore, with another Singapore ambassador remarking that:

These students, hopefully only a noisy minority, are idiotic. I think it was a mistake to have let Yale establish a campus in Singapore. Some sections of the American Academy have been behaving in insane ways and their particular band of insanity should not be allowed to be imported into Singapore. What these idiots do not seem to realise is that their attitude fundamentally contradicts the supposedly liberal tolerance for different views. That is the real issue not LGBT rights: the illiberalism of liberals.

Members of the public have also chimed in to agree that people are "insane" and "intolerant" to complain about the anti-homosexual laws, which incidentally mirrors the kind of language employed against SJWs. I guess the pro-homosexuals in Singapore are the local SJWs.

Anyway, Yale-NUS has rejected the calls for the college board member above to resign, advocating "tolerance for ideas" and "debate":

In our meeting, we advised our students to be open to a range of views and to engage broadly, rather than to be intolerant of perspectives that are different from theirs.

I think the whole incident is pretty amusing. Here are my questions: Is it intolerant to call out views and laws as intolerant? Does being tolerant entail tolerating discriminatory laws?

Bonus questions: Should Yale-NUS be closed down for the intolerance its students and academics have displayed in opposing anti-gay laws and views? Are SJWs everywhere equally "insane" in pushing against the boundaries of their societies?

 

[useless]

Ah the old "You're intolerant of my intolerance"!

First they came for the racists, shaming them, and I did not speak out because I am not a racist.

Then they came for the misogynists, mocking them, and I did not speak out because I am not a misgynist.

Then they came for the homophobes, destroying their flimsy arguments, and I did not speak out because I am not a homophobe.

Then they came for me and when i told them i wasn't any of those bigoted groups they said "cool" and left me alone.

 

[Joecoolyo]

I didn't think someone would actually seriously use the argument "I have a right to oppress others" in real life

 

[Omega124]

Wow I am actually pretty disgusted by all of this. If I was a student at Yale I'd actually be seriously considering transferring to be honest. Maybe this just hits too close to home to me....

 

[SLAAKMAN]

I think the whole incident is pretty amusing. Here are my questions: Is it intolerant to call out views and laws as intolerant?

Depends on whose agenda is being served. Radicals too often have duped nations by claiming victimhood and then stabbing the very same people they claimed to be liberating in the back!

Does being tolerant entail tolerating discriminatory laws?

Depends upon how you define "discriminatory".

Bonus questions: Should Yale-NUS be closed down for the intolerance its students and academics have displayed in opposing anti-gay laws and views?

No, Yale-NUS shouldnt be closed down and should comply with the laws within that country.

Are SJWs everywhere equally "insane" in pushing against the boundaries of their societies?

So-called, "Social Justice Warriors" are wolves in sheeps clothing who should be considered criminals & prosecuted for imposing malignant coercive methods to bully the majority into complicity with their totalitarian agenda.

 

[Ryika]

LGBTQI+

Hah, that thing really DOES get longer.

Spoiler :

"That's what she said."

 

[Omega124]

Oh no, SLAAKMAN figured us all out. The LGBT liberation movement is in fact a giant ploy to create a one world government ruled by an iron fist by the gay/trans/sjw/whatever the buzzword is now agenda. Our plans have been exposed to the very core, and soon only due to this man's viligilence will we see ourselves in the slammers as traitors to the old order. Woe is us! D:

 

[cardgame]

I think the whole incident is pretty amusing. Here are my questions: Is it intolerant to call out views and laws as intolerant? Does being tolerant entail tolerating discriminatory laws?

Bonus questions: Should Yale-NUS be closed down for the intolerance its students and academics have displayed in opposing anti-gay laws and views? Are SJWs everywhere equally "insane" in pushing against the boundaries of their societies?

No, no, no, and no.

Tolerance of intolerance is nothing but cowardice.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Wow I am actually pretty disgusted by all of this. If I was a student at Yale I'd actually be seriously considering transferring to be honest. Maybe this just hits too close to home to me....

How much does Yale-NUS represent the views of Yale actual, anyway?

 

[SLAAKMAN]

Oh no, SLAAKMAN figured us all out. The LGBT liberation movement is in fact a giant ploy to create a one world government ruled by an iron fist by the gay/trans/sjw/whatever the buzzword is now agenda. Our plans have been exposed to the very core, and soon only due to this man's viligilence will we see ourselves in the slammers as traitors to the old order. Woe is us!

True but theres no worries. Nobody except yourselves (and God of course) even cares. Your over-reaction is Much Ado About Nothing after all.

 

[useless]

Good to know discrimination and support of laws that allow said discrimination of lGBT+ people are "nothing". Be sure to tell those LGBT people that they are literally crying and upset over nothing. Your words will be of great comfort i am sure.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Why do you guys even respond to him? Have any of you actually gotten any useful discussion that way?

 

[aelf]

How much does Yale-NUS represent the views of Yale actual, anyway?

What do you mean by the views of Yale? If you mean the official stance, presumably, they would have the same stance towards the issue (i.e. that its students should be "open to a range of views and to engage broadly, rather than to be intolerant of perspectives that are different from theirs").

I don't know how it would not be awkward for them to have a markedly different stance, which would implicitly call into question their decision to set up Yale-NUS in a locale where they would clearly have to compromise on their values.

Anyway, plenty of locals think that Yale-NUS is nothing but trouble and would like it to be closed down, since they hold it as a bastion of the dreaded Western or liberal values. I'm starting to think it should. I mean, would Yale set up a college in Saudi Arabia?

 

[SLAAKMAN]

Good to know discrimination and support of laws that allow said discrimination of lGBT+ people are "nothing". Be sure to tell those LGBT people that they are literally crying and upset over nothing. Your words will be of great comfort i am sure.

It would be better to know who your allies & friends actually are as well. Instead of allying yourselves to leftist extremists, relentlessly smearing Christians & waging covert (and overt) aggression against heterosexuals, you might gain more sincere respect by allying with Libertarians who demand equal opportunity for all (except Marxists who are a hopeless case). As for my reference to nobody cares, the Sheeple, which constitutes the majority in the US actually dont care or even despise having to spend so much time on political issues.

 

[useless]

Except you aren't the lgbt group's ally for as long as you enable discrimination by tacitly ignoring it.

Also i find it strange how you consider advocating for LGBT rights is somehow the same as "attacking" heterosexuals, you're no ally of mine.

 

[SLAAKMAN]

Except you aren't the lgbt group's ally for as long as you enable discrimination by tacitly ignoring it

If you believe youre going to take away my choices and force me or anyone to accept you then youre going to have a war on your hands. If you actually try to have a dialog then maybe we'll get somewhere. Its up to you how it turns out.

 

[innonimatu]

I'll only say "good for Singapore that you are having those conflicts". They're part of the process of changing things.

 

[Omega124]

True but theres no worries. Nobody except yourselves (and God of course) even cares. Your over-reaction is Much Ado About Nothing after all.

Should I post a 2 and a half hour long video on what sarcasm is?

 

[Red_Spy]

If you believe youre going to take away my choices and force me or anyone to accept you then youre going to have a war on your hands..

That ended well last time.

 

[Ryika]

So I actually don't get it. There is this Chan Heng Chee woman, Ambassador and board member of Yale-NUS who, at the UN, explains that Singapore has a law against male homosexuality that is not enforced but was decided a few years ago to be kept because Singapore is "a conservative society".

Then people ask for her to give up her position as a board member of Yale-NUS purely because of the things she has to explain as Ambassador, not because she has actually done anything wrong?

And then this Bilahari Kausikan guy links an article about how people are arguing that students are idiots for asking for her to resign.

And finally there's the president Yale-NUS who says that people should have an open mind and not be intolerant (as in asking for people to be removed from their position for something they disagree with?) for different views.

So... where exactly are the Anti-LGBT people in this story? What is the big controversy? And... people are.... basically attacking each other over her not doing anything bad, not having a bad opinion but actually doing her job as an Ambassador and explaining - not actively endorsing - the situation of that law in her country?

Do people really not have anything better to do with their time?