Yi Sun-Sin and turtle ships

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Okobo Mori watched the sunrise from the poopdeck of his galley, 1 more day and they would reach Pusan and safty. His satifaction was short lived as his adjective ran up deck to meet him, " honored one, several unknown objects are visable coming towards us from the direction of the rising sun". Sweat began to pour off off Okobo, he was samurai and not even afraid of death itself, but this scared him. Was it Kobukion? A hail from the masthead confermed his worst fears--kobukion, kobukion---turtleships, turtleships!!! Okobo scream to turn the ship around and signal the rest of the fleet. He saw only 12 turtleships to his 133 warships, but those were not good enough odds to get him to fight the dreaded turtleships. As his ships turned he knew it was too late, they would not get away. " prepare for battle" he cried, he was samurai, he knew how to die. As the Korean ships closed he wispered a prayer to his ancestors, for dying was what going to happen.

The Ima Jin war of 1592-1598 between Korean and Japan led to the rise of a remarkable man and his brainchild. Yi Sun-Sin and the turtleship. Yi was born in 1545 and began a military life in 1576. When war broke out he was commanding the Cholla squadron of the korean navy. A japanese fleet of over 700 warships escorted a 200,000 samurai invasion force. Toyotomi Hideyoshi of japan angry at Ming China demanded passage thru Korea to strike China. When Korea declined, the Japanese invaded. The Korean army was no match for the veteran samurai ,who swiftly seized the capital and moved north. Even a token Ming force sent to aid them couldn't slow the Japanese down. Only lack of control of the sea prevented Japanese consolidation of their gains.

In 1592 Yi had foresaw war with Japan, either supporting their Ming ally or a direct Japanese invasion. He began working on a project--the turtleship. The turtleship was not new, it had been used as early as 1413 by Korea. The early vessals had re-enforced wood planking and no cannon. Yi simply brought them up to date. The first ships were completed just 2 days before the invasion.

Kobukion or Turtleship
@ 120 feet long
@ 26 feet wide
@ 20 feet high
16 oars- 8 per side with 4 rowers each
2 masts-removable
armour plates covering the topside with spikes scattered all around to prevent boarding
cannon--reports conflict, most have @ 15 while there talk of up to 40 on later models.
The Turtle head has a cannon to either side and 1 below it. The head itself has 2 tubes able to shot out chemicals. The first is an asian version of greek fire, the second a sulfuric acid cloud that caused blindness and asphyxintion. The ship while heavy was suprisingly fast for its size. It had a crew of 80 rowers and sailors plus 45 soldiers.

In may of 1592 Yi attacked the main Japanese fleet at Okpo bay, outnumbered 800-80, the turtleships sunk 30 japanese warships with no loses. The next day at Sach-on Yi scored another victory against heavy odds. At Hasan Island in july he sunk 119 japanese ships. Yi liked to used an inverted V formation, caughting the Japanese in the V and a crossfire. By this third victory Japanese crews took to beaching their ships at the site of the turtleships and fleeing inland!! By now lack of control of the sea had forced the Japanese to retreat back to the lower half of Korea. Yi decided to raid their main base at Pusan. He sent fireships into the harbor, scattering the 500 ships gathered there. He then hunted down and sunk 250 of them.

By 1597 the Japanese resorted to a spy to defeat Yi. They " leaked " word of a convoy just waiting to be ambushed and made sure Yi heard of it. But Yi seeing the charts of the area and words from his own spies refused to bite, however his king ordered him to attack--he refused and was arrested. His replacement sailed and was ambushed and his fleet lost. Yi was put back in charge.

Yi began rebuild his fleet at Chon Do island, when he got 12 ships he went looking for the Japanese fleet. At Myongnyang he found a convoy escorted by 133 warships sinking 30 of them. In japan Totomi Hideyoshi had died in september of 1598 and the Japanese withdrew to Pusan sail to Japan. Yi attacked the fleet of 400 ships near Noryang and destroyed it and ended the war. But yi did not live to see it. Struck by a musketshot early in the battle, he commanded till the end refusing aid before dying.

Yi is a national hero in Korea and patron of the South Korean navy.

 
Didn't he tell the people that saw him die to not tell anyone that he died until the battle was over so the troops and sailors won't get demoralized? :confused:
 
One of the reasons the Kobukson was so effective against the Japanese were its spikes along the sides of the ship (often hidden with canvas, reed and crap). The japs were excellent melee fighters (bushido and the samurai), and they liked to use these skills by boarding enemy vessals, and wiping the floor with the korean crew. Bristling spikes kinda discouraged his kind of behaviour, well, after the first few japanese soldiers found out the hard way. Being the first to board went from being honorable to being incredibly stupid.
Also, should be noted that the ship's cannons could be rotated to fire in unison on either side.
Oh, and I've heard that the number of Kobukson used is actually much exxagerated. I recall hearing that the actually number used in most battles was around 5 or so, but perhaps this is only during one part of the war?
 
Always wanted to know about the first Ironclads of Naval Warfare..good post:goodjob:
 
alex994 said:
Didn't he tell the people that saw him die to not tell anyone that he died until the battle was over so the troops and sailors won't get demoralized? :confused:

Yes, he was hit and refused attention so he could direct the battle, he had his officers stand around him so the crew could not see that it had happened.

 
Bungus said:
I've heard that the number of Kobukson used is actually much exxagerated. I recall hearing that the actually number used in most battles was around 5 or so, but perhaps this is only during one part of the war?

see that in the first battle he had 80, but later ones used only 30, even only 12 in the final one. so their numbers were very small compared to the numbers of the japanese fleet.
 
:goodjob: always wanted to read about these ships, why aren't they the UU of Korea?
 
Great read pawpaw! :goodjob: I had never heard of those suckers :confused: , thanks for the info :coffee: .
 
yepp, YiSunShin forever
"Those willing to die will live, and those willing to live will die." --Admiral Yi.
 

Details
* Title: 불멸의 이순신 / Bulmyeolui Yi Soon-shin
* Also known as: The Immortal Lee Soon-shin / Immortal Admiral Yi Soon-shin / Immortal Yi Soon-shin
* Episodes: 104 (+ 2 special programs)
* Broadcast network: KBS1
* Broadcast period: 2004-Sep-04 to 2005-Aug-28 (2005-Sep-04)
* Air time: Saturday & Sunday 9:45 PM
* Viewership rating: (peak: 33.1%) (average: 29.9%)

Synopsis

1) Fixed ideas about a national hero are brought up for a scrutiny.

No hero has ever been sent by heaven. He has emerged as one ultimately after undergoing a lifelong process. Drama "Yi Sun-shin" is designed to challenge the fixed ideas about him who has been remembered in the form of an imposing statue standing at the Gwanghwamun intersection in Seoul and the Hyeonchungsa Shrine in South Chungcheong Province, while shedding a new light upon him as a human being.

2) Drama "Yi Sun-shin" depicts Yi Sun-shin as a soldier who struggled to survive turbulent days.

At the time when Yi Sun-shin lived, the Joseon Dynasty had to achieve political reforms and stabilize the livelihood of the people, while defending the country against the Yojin (Nu Zhen) Tribe and Japanese pirate raiders. Yi Sun-shin was regarded sometimes with jealousy in the process of protecting grass-roots people and sticking to the principles of reforms and lost some battles. He was removed from his duties three times and reinstated to the military service two times as a rank-and-filer. But for all this disgrace, Yi Sun-shin was reborn as a true hero who led the Joseon Navy to a myth of invincibility during the Hideyoshi Invasion (1592-1598 A.D.). Yi Sun-shin, as a soldier who struggled to protect grass-roots people, is what Drama "Yi Sun-shin" has planned to depict.

3) Drama "Yi Sun-shin" is a Korean version of "War and Peace" in the 21st century

Drama "Yi Sun-shin" is not a biography of Admiral Yi Sun-shin, nor does it intend to reconstruct a part of the Joseon Dynasty that existed in the 16th century. It will merely look into many human beings, including Yi Sun-shin, who underwent an extreme situation called the Hideyoshi Invasion, in efforts to study all kinds of human nature, from the most noble down to the most crude...

While dramatizing a war in which human beings turn into inhuman wretches in an extreme way, we hope that this drama will serve paradoxically as an opportunity to remind people of the importance of peace.

4) We are not going to depict characters based on a dichotomous criterion.

We will cast a new light on another military leader, Won Gyun, whose evaluation has been severely distorted in the process of making a hero of Admiral Yi Sun-shin, and maintain an objective view of the military leaders of Japan and the Chinese Ming Dynasty as well. While based on a historical fact on the national hero of Japan, Hideyoshi Toyotomi, we are going to find out how his distorted ambition had led many people to be killed in the war and laid a stumbling block to the peace in East Asia. We will remain neutral in our evaluations of Ming generals, such as Chen Lin and Li Rusong.

5) We have made an attempt to shed a new light on numerous officers and soldiers under Yi Sun-shin's command by looking into the admiral not as a hero, but as a true leader.

Yi Sun-shin had a staff of many talented officers under his command. Some of them include Kwon Jun, a strategist, Na Dae-yong, a scientist, and many nameless people who assisted Na in building the turtle ships and making armory. Besides, many other officers, including Chung Un, fought in the war, setting their own life at naught. The drama will describe Yi Sun-shin, a man of virtues, as the leader of these men.

6) In part, the drama will shed light on the life of the villagers at "Gonyang Pottery" in a bid to emphasize the superiority of the culture of the Joseon Dynasty.

The Japanese were so enthusiastic about the Joseon culture that the Hideyoshi Invasion was called a war of porcelain bowls. Many Joseon potters were taken as prisoners of war to Japan, where they produced china and porcelain that later formed the basis of the economic power of the shogunate government of Ieyasu Tokugawa in Edo, Japan. The drama is going to lay stress on the superiority of the Joseon culture by depicting the life and conflicts of potters at the Gonyang Pottery Village.


7) We are going to make a detailed description of the life of grass-roots people, who underwent a war, in efforts to reiterate that such people are the true heroes of history.

In such turbulent days, the king, senior government officials or military leaders were not the only ones that were concerned about the future of their country. There were merchants, who did not hesitate to donate their purses to the national defense despite the cold treatment they received in society based on social status; numerous army volunteers and their leaders, who tried to save their country with their own life; and monk soldiers and their leaders, who rose in arms in the belief that real redemption would come from saving the country. While depicting their resolute stance, we are going to reaffirm the stark fact that "grass-roots people are the real heroes of history."

8) We will try to shed light on the history from an objective point of view, while also taking a look at the background of a historical view that was instigated by the Japanese colonial government.

Some historians, including Lee Gwang-su, who have been advocates of such a distorted historical view, have tried to attribute the outbreak of the war and the subsequent defeat to the government officials' preoccupation in political strifes. But this view is obviously a misjudgment. Political contests are not a prelude to the national ruin. The Joseon society, which was an absolute monarchy, was not ready yet to receive such a political system.

9) This drama will draw a real picture of the Joseon society, which was not well acquainted with the international situation at the time, in a bid to learn a lesson from this example.

In East Asia at the time, Ming was losing his influence gradually, while Yojin was emerging as the central power in Manchuria. In Japan, Nobunaga Oda died after putting an end to a 120-year civil war, and Hideyoshi Toyotomi took power and unified the entire Japan. During the civil war, Japan accepted the Western civilization and came in contact with quite a new weapon, harquebuses. Records have it that the military capabilities of Japan at the time were stronger than those of the European countries combined. Japan had the high ambition to conquer East Asia based on such military capabilities. Regrettably, there were not many people in Joseon who had a correct understanding of the international situation.

The drama will point out, first of all, these points as the primary causes of the 7-year Joseon-Japanese War and the ensuing bitter defeat. We are going to look into the life of Yi Sun-shin, Yu Seong-ryong and Won Gyun who went through such turbulent days as contemporaries. From this history, we are going to learn a lesson for today's Korea, a small and weak nation in the dynamics of the international relations.

Source: KBS

Cast

* Kim Myung Min as Lee Soon Shin
* Lee Jae Ryong as Yoo Sung Ryong
* Choi Chul Ho as King Seonjo
* Choi Jae Sung as Won Gyun
* Ahn Yeon Hong as Hong Yi
* Kim Gyu Chul

Production Credits

* Producer: Jung Young Chul
* Director: Lee Sung Joo, Kim Jung Gyu
* Screenwriter: Yoon Sun Joo
* Assistant director: Han Joon Seo, Lee So Yun, Song Hyun Wook, Kim Won Suk
* Assistant screenwriter: Park Young Suk (박영숙), Yoon Young Soo (윤영수), Jang Ki Chang (장기창)

Awards

* 2006 The 33rd Korean Broadcasting Awards: Best TV Talent Kim Myung Min
* 2006 18th Producers Awards of Korea: Best Performer Kim Myung Min
* 2005 Grime Award: Best Actor Kim Myung Min
* 2005 KBS Drama Awards: Grand Prize Kim Myung Min
* 2004 The 4th KBS Right Language Awards: Kim Myung Min
 
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