Before VP I could only manage to play civ with a buddy of mine as it made for a decent casual game to go through the turns. I distinctly remember a case where, after nuking my friend to oblivion, I decided to go for a full domination victory to see the replay. Attila had heaps and heaps of warriors. Nothing but ancient units after I just finished nuking someone. Can't tell you how happy I was when I found out modpacks exist and how the AI was doing better than us on King for our first VP(CBP for the time I guess) game. Feels like so long ago now.