Very well said sketch162000. I too like to just play. If I happen to win, that's fine but my overall objective is to have fun. I also feel that ciV caters to people that just want to win. That's their main objective and why they play. I loved all the Civ series but I especially loved cIV. The sheer amount of options that were available to the player was wonderful. You could really tell a story when you played. The game came alive and the wonderful AARs reflected that. Sadly, I must agree with your final point. I don't think a mod (unless it changes pretty well everything) or an expansion is really going to change the fundamental design of the game.