Discussion in 'Civ3 - Strategy & Tips' started by aimeeandbeatles, Apr 30, 2007.
Nonsense. It makes a dandy prebuild.
Has anyone even tried Feudalism? I would think it's a lot like Monarchy, but I have to be honest and say I never even thought of trying it.
I've only tried it once, so I can only "parrot" the conventional wisdom that I've heard, which would be that it's only good for culture games where you do a lot of pop-rushing of culture buildings.
How did you get overwhelming WW in the first place?
I've fought long lasting conquest campaigns in republic, granted, I was playing below emperor difficulty, but still....
Bloodlust for neverending wars?
Sometimes you don't need very much in order to push you over the top. Building US plus Police Stations, I've very rarely had problems with WW.
Besides, by that late in the game I'll build a wonder just to deny the AI from getting it.
I like Communism is Civ 3 for large empires. Other than that, my most preferred government is Republic.
Indeed, still, has anyone ever compared Monarchy to Feudalism? I think they wouldn't be so different.
I know that the unit support structure is different. Besides, Monarchy is a cash-rush government, while Feudalism is pop-rush. That alone would seem (to me) to make a pretty big difference.
I voted for "depends on the situation" for one reason.
YOU LEFT OUT FASCISM
Fascism can be a lot more useful than most people think. Its best use is late in the game when you have a small empire that does not have a lot of cities to support units. Using fascism, you're not penalized for having a huge army so you can use it without having to cut funds to entertainment or science.
And about the culture stuff and captured cities, burn them.
Of course, if you're not going for a military victory, you're probably better off with something else.
Feudalism has WW....I think
I always go republic, even in my warmonger games (and no I don't cheat and switch opponents whenever the WW gets rough), it helps keep me from running away with the technology because I have to spend a ton on the happiness slider.
I could always put the difficulty level up one more, but then I'm always an entire era behind the AI and thats messed up.
Feudalism does have WW but it is my current favourite for Sid games. I didn't vote because it wasn't on the list.
What's not to love? Plop down a town every 2 squares and you can instantly support 5 additional units. Turn your 1 pop into a tax collector (or scientist if you prefer) and don't bother with population growth (outside worker/settler factories of course).
Your failed town is now producing 1 shield/3 gold regardless of WW or corruption and allows you to field 5 more units in your army for free. Allows for a massive army and wars can be continued nearly indefinitely causing your enemy to suffer the WW effects, while you are nearly immune.
I haven't tried this but wouldn't civil engineer specialists give you production during anarchy? My understanding is that civ engineers only add production to building improvements and not settlers/workers/units. Anyone know what happens to those accumulated shields if you use civ engineers to prebuild a building and then swap over to a settler/worker/unit?
This really opens up a lot of possible new strategies for me to try. At the very least I really need to think more about optimizing my anarchy turns more.
Ahh, I'm very happy to hear Feudalism has a niche. It would be unfortunate if the dev team wasted their time.
I believe that it works just like wonders - i.e., you lose those extra "engineer" shields if you switch production to a unit. The only way I've ever produced units in anarchy is by chopping down a nearby forest. (Heh, I didn't even realize I was doing it, during anarchy I was MMing and clearing forest for irrigation, and a unit popped out the next turn, I was like "WTF?")
If you're building a building or wonder and using CEs to make it go quicker, then switch to a unit, you lose the shields.
I prefer Facsism, but you didnt include 'em.
So i choose Communism instead.
Where are fascism and feudalism?
Those two and communism are the best govt imo
Despo -> Republic -> Democracy
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