Discussion in 'Sports Talk' started by Archbob, Dec 19, 2008.
isnt it about how much value you get for what you have to pay?
I'm 100% certain there are players less valuable than Beckham.
NFL: 8-5. Chad Johnson is 65th in Receiving yards this year. He has 540 receiving yards and 4 TDs. Above him are TIGHT ENDS
Visanthe Shiancoe (582 yards, 7 tds)
John Carlson (613 yards, 5 tds)
neither of whom have started 15 games this year. (14/9)
NHL: Sean Avery
any player who gets suspended for OFF-ICE actions is bad. getting suspended for stupidly running your mouth is worse. antagonizing top players on two teams AND making it so that the biggest stars on your team don't want you and the GM REGRETS signing you? that deserves a trophy. or a medal. it must be tough to do.
NBA: Greg Oden. as a buckeye's fan, it hurts to say this, but...
#1 draft pick wasted on him. misses a full YEAR. plays 13 minutes, doesn't score, and gets REINJURED. finally scores in his 2nd NBA game, only...16 months after the draft?
also, he has EIGHT ppg.
me too, but he's pretty high up there. (if you discount merchandise sales and only count money-strenghtening of the team)
Greg Oden is on the list in his first full season. That's a bit early. Give him a year.
Chad has been playing better in the second half, he was stupid and didn't rehab his injury properly until the season was almost upon him. Oh, and he had Ryan Fitzpatrick throwing to him. The only thing Fitzpatrick is good at is looking better than Ken Dorsey.
To some extent the player has to have some pretty all-pro skills or else his locker room antics won't be tolerated long enough to matter. To that end, I think Terrell Owens is a good candidate.
And Brett Favre, 2005+
The Denver Broncos defense, oh my they suck so bad...
Favre is doing pretty damn good this year.
yep, three touchdowns more than interceptions!
As I said above, it's not so much about skills, but the front-office/fan chaos he caused in Green Bay with his pseudo-retirement(s) and his inducing the Jets to get rid of Pennington in favor of a QB that couldn't quite take them to the playoffs in 2008 and won't be around in 2009.
I think it was all about taking a shot at it this year. Pennington isn't a great QB, which is why I think he works so well in Parcell/Sperano's lineup. He doesn't turn the ball over and he's healthy. If I were a Jet's fan then I'd take this year, whether it be 9-7 or 10-6 (w/ or w/o playoffs), and be pretty dang happy about it.
you think their offense is not capable of enabling a quarterback to have more than a qb rating of 85 and 21 TD/19 INT after 15 games?
4-12 Last year was not very clutch.
if you have a winning season with a quarterback with that statistics you've improved.
Pennington only played in 9 games last year and was battling the injuries when he was playing. Kellen Clemens was awful.
Pennington has outplayed Favre this year and so has Aaron Rodgers. End of story.
Too bad it isn't as simple as "End of story", but since I don't hate you and will receive no joy for making you angry, I'll say I respectfully disagree. Merry Christmas brother.
NHL: Sean Avery
NFL: Sean Avery
MLB: Sean Avery
NBA: Dennis Pitta
American college football: Ryan Perrilloux. He was supposed to be the starting QB for LSU, but he was a constant discipline problem and Les Miles ended up having to throw him off the team. Which forced LSU to rely on a redshirt freshman who threw almost as many TD passes for the opponents as he did for the Tigers...then he got hurt and we had to go with a true freshman. Inexperience at quarterback singlehandedly lost the Alabama game for us and was a major factor in the Georgia and Arkansas losses.
Don't worry. I'm sure Al would love to sign him and put him on the Raider O-line next to Legendary Bust Robert Gallery and Kwame "Three False Starts In One Offensive Possession" Harris.
Oh well, at least they're solid at Kicker and Punter...
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