OK so I'm curious. What was your quickest, most devastating conventional war? I'm a builder by nature and find wars somewhat tedious, but I tried an experiment to see how quickly I could polish off Shaka. This was partly just to see how quick it could be done, and partly because I had just captured the Khmer and Mayan empires, and I couldn't take any war weariness without major economic trouble. So I arranged a naval invasion force around each of his cities and an attack force next to the one city where I could reach him by land, then attacked. I started the war in October, 1974 and it was over by July, 1975. Granted I had far superior units and a big tech lead, but it was still an interesting experiment. This was my first and only domination win. (everything else has been space, cultural or diplo) Here's the save game for the really curious or if you want to try it yourself. The particulars are: BTS 3.17 standard. Huge map, Marathon speed. Playing as Ramesses II of Egypt. Prince difficulty, low sea level and tropical. No tech brokering and no vassal states. AND please keep in mind that over 2/3 of the empire is captured, so don't thrash my management skills too bad! I finished off Japan, France, Maya, and Khmer before hitting the Zulu.