Guess the New Civs

[MARDUK80]

If not mentioning the ones you chose, perhaps:

1) Finland
2) Anasazi (Puebloan)
3) Apache
4) Israel
5) Kushan
6) Phoenicia
7) Romania
8) Poland
10) Sumer
11) Sweden
12) Tibet
13) Timurid
14) Australia or even Inuit

Check the link in my signature
Unfortunately I have not updated the list since last August. So those are pretty undeveloped/old ideas, but there a lots of good ones and especially lots of links worth checking out and learning more.

 

[seasnake]

DNA tests have confirmed time and again that Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are in fact of the same blood line.

I don't want to derail the thread any further, so I'll just say this in support of the Khazar nation: The Khazars were a superpower of their time and more than just a barbarian group, they actually made the transition from nomad to civilization better than many other groups and the height of their power the Khazar Khagan was recognized as the fourth great emperor along with the Frankish King, the Byzantine Emperor and the Caliph of Baghdad.

 

[seasnake]

If not mentioning the ones you chose, perhaps:

1) Finland
2) Anasazi (Puebloan)
3) Apache
4) Israel
5) Kushan
6) Phoenicia
7) Romania
8) Poland
10) Sumer
11) Sweden
12) Tibet
13) Timurid
14) Australia or even Inuit

Check the link in my signature
Unfortunately I have not updated the list since last August. So those are pretty undeveloped/old ideas, but there a lots of good ones and especially lots of links worth checking out and learning more.

I think I'd pick:

1) Minoan
2) Phoenician
3) Zimbabwe
4) Timurid
5) Poland

 

[mitsho]

The Khazars would certainly be a good "Asian Steppe" Civ since they have a distinct culture and some things that make them unique - the whole Judaism thing, how much is true is rather irrelevant since it's the myth that counts.

Other possibilities are more dynasties - the Timurids, the Moghuls, to a degree also the Seljuks - and don't really fit into it with unique city lists. I would really love to see a medieval West/Central/South Asian empire as for example the Safwawids (Muslim Persia) or the Moghuls seem not representated either with the Persia and India we have. India especially could use a second civ since it is such a diverse country.

 

[MARDUK80]

India especially could use a second civ since it is such a diverse country.

Agreed. I believe Kushans would be the best choice for that slot

Kushan Empire (30–375)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushan_Empirehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushan_Empire
http://www.kushan.org/
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/kush/hd_kush.htm
http://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/exhibit/kushans/kushans.html
http://www.kushan.org/essays/chronology/kanishka.htm (Kanishka as the Leader)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=17359 (Kushan MOD for CIV)

 

[mitsho]

I agree, other possibilities are Ashoka with the Maurya, although that again would be more of a Dynasty which is a big problem with most non-European civs... They could always do a bastardized version of India with the Mughal, see the Holy Roman Empire in Civ 4.

My Dark Horse however would be the Chola*, getting away from Northern India and also incorporating the Tamilese and the Sri Lanka Region. But I guess, a Indonesian Civ is more likey before them...

*Hmm, funny, the English wikipedia lists them as a Tamil Dynasty, while the other wikis list them as Chola Empire...

 

[Camikaze]

DNA tests have confirmed time and again that Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are in fact of the same blood line.

Moderator Action: This line of discussion doesn't need to continue.

 

[Manifold]

The mongols lasted 162 years

no, it was previously divided. the mongolian world empire lasted clearly under 100 years

Another note on the Soviets as new civ

...there is no Soviet culture, which is one of the basis for having a civilization.

Are you kidding? of course the SU has his own culture

The Byzantines had their own distinct culture from ancient Greece.

But they have not their own distinct culture from the Late Roman empire. First the Romans moved their capital to Byzanz, then the empire was divided. Also they had the same citynames like Greece, Rome, Arabs, Egypt...so its the same to make a GB civ and England civ.

 

[Louis XXIV]

BTW, as much as I'd like to have a general suggestions thread, they might want you to post those here. This thread is technically about who you think they'll include (or at least have a shot of including).

 

[Gucumatz]

I am a little late on this, but yea I would welcome the Khazars as well! A great choice unlike the the commonly suggested Huns/Timur.

Khazars would also fit very well in this expansion.

 

[magzhi]

well I'd love if firaxis finally filled middle asia with something because it always looks empty on real starting location maps.
Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan would be a good choice. The first horseback riding was in this region. One of the first iron smelting and creation of iron weapons was also in this middle asia region. But well developers of civ always ignored this part of the world lol

 

[hoplitejoe]

Choosing civs to fill the world map is the worst way to choose civs.

 

[magzhi]

Choosing civs to fill the world map is the worst way to choose civs.

well middle asia has a history not smaller than most of european countries, so I don't know what is the "better" way to choose civ in ur opinion

 

[CivOasis]

Choosing civs to fill the world map is the worst way to choose civs.

Generally speaking, it's very easy to find a surplus of reasons to put those civs in.
The usual issue isn't lack of a reason, but lack of players knowing of the region.

 

[Snoopaloop]

Choosing civs to fill the world map is the worst way to choose civs.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just like your opinion man."

Here's mine:
I would choose Zulu and Ethiopia (which I stated a few pages back) as two of my picks, partially to fill out the Earth map better. Can't be a worse way than by how I chose the Pheonicians. It's a game, not National Geographics, list of top 30 civilizations ever.

 

[apocalypse105]

Huns maybe because of the scenario's

 

[Uberfrog]

Choosing civs to fill the world map is the worst way to choose civs.

Have to disagree there. Different regions bring vastly different cultures and adaptations to different environments that only serve to increase the variety in the game's aesthetics and play-styles, respectively.

That's not to say it should be ones only criterion, but I'd rather have an expansion with nine civs from all over the world than nine civs from Europe and the Middle East, even though Firaxis would have no problem finding nine perfectly qualified civilisations from just those regions.

 

[turingmachine]

It's easy to get past 50 and still include worthy civs.

Legacy civs that I feel will probably definitely get added at some point:

Zulu
Sumer
Portugal
Ethiopia

Legacy Civs that have a good chance of getting added:

Khmer
Hittites
Sioux

New Civs that I feel should be added:

Kongo
Majapahit
Timurids
Assyria

New Civs I would like to see added:

Benin
Kievan Rus'
Austria
Poland
Champa
Israelite
Goths
Phoenician
Elam
Scythian
Huns
Sweden
Vietnam

Civs if you want to add geographic diversity:

Australian Aborigine
Inuit
Gran Columbia

 

[hoplitejoe]

well middle asia has a history not smaller than most of european countries, so I don't know what is the "better" way to choose civ in ur opinion

I am not saying the Khazars or anyone in the central Asia shouldn't be in, just that "In my world map scenario no one starts here" is not a very good argument for a civ to be included. Saying they were culturally important, controlled large amounts of land or made technological improvement are reasons for Civs to be included.

 

[Canox]

It's easy to get past 50 and still include worthy civs.

Legacy civs that I feel will probably definitely get added at some point:

Zulu
Sumer
Portugal
Ethiopia

Legacy Civs that have a good chance of getting added:

Khmer
Hittites
Sioux

New Civs that I feel should be added:

Kongo
Majapahit
Timurids
Assyria

New Civs I would like to see added:

Benin
Kievan Rus'
Austria
Poland
Champa
Israelite
Goths
Phoenician
Elam
Scythian
Huns
Vietnam

Civs if you want to add geographic diversity:

Australian Aborigine
Inuit
Gran Columbia
Tupi

I like your list. Those civs would really be worthy to get integrated and would add same nice variety. I can't wait for the last 4 Civs to be announced!