He was asking for advice on how to play FfH2 better as the Grigori. You told him how to avoid his problem by playing something else, not how to deal with it. Suggesting he go play Golf instead would have been as helpful.
A mod of Fall From Heaven is still Fall from Heaven. They are as alien to FfH2 as humans are from eachother, which is to say not at all.
This assumes that someone new to FF or RiFE will immediately understand the mechanics of those mods and automatically adopt a successful strategy - which is clearly ludricrous. FF and RiFE are more complicated than FfH2, not less. Someone new to all of them will take longer to learn the dynamics of FF and RiFE because of their greater complexity, and will be more likely to need to ask questions or advice. So the idea that someone who is asking questions about how to play FfH2 will no longer have questions after switching to FF or RiFE is just silly.
You don't need to relearn all mechanics, though; only the few changes that pertain to the Grigori. As RifE and FF are firmly based on FfH2, the change is negligable in most regards.
My suggestion was not for rxrx, but for YOU. I thought this was perfectly clear. Perhaps you failed to comprehend that fact, but I suspect that you are just feigning confusion so that you can label my post as off-topic. Yes, it is off-topic for the thread, but it is fully on-topic for a response to your post (which I contend pretends to be on-topic while in fact being off-topic). Edit: And for the record, I had already made some helpful, on-topic suggestions in an earlier post ([URL="http://forums.civfanatics.com
Charmed as I am at the flattery, I am not a thread; 'on-topic in response' to me is still grossly off topic, especially when I was not off topic in the first place. You can disagree with my suggestions, but that does not mean they aren't appropriate in context of the thread/
It is possible that I am myself breaching etiquette.
You are and were. Common sense and basic social skills as well. You are not a Mod, so by shaddowmodding you're breaching your forum role as well.
I acknowledge that my response to you constituted a derailment of the thread, or at least a further derailment (depending on whether one accepts your original post as being on-topic). Sometimes it is necessary to do the unpleasant in the hope that it will prevent greater unpleasantness in the future. If you choose to interpret my resolve as hypocrisy, so be it. At this point I have little hope that my posts will serve their intended purpose, so this is all probably a waste anyway.
Yeah, you pretty much derailed this thread. And for no real reason: it was neither necessary or helpful. Necessity implies a lack of choice, but even a minor faux paus on my part harms no one. Yet your 'correction' has directly led to the derailment of this thread; one of us made no difference to the thread, and the other sparked a derailement.
Congratulations. Perhaps we should put you to use in politics.
The issue is that your post masquerades as helpful, but is actually an insidious attack on FfH2. You advise a new player to give up on his attempts to understand how to play the mod, and instead go play another mod instead. This is made especially wicked because of the fact that the mod you suggest he play is actually more complicated than the one on which you suggest he give up, which means that if he were to take your advice it is almost guaranteed that he will have the same problem in the new mod.
Insidious? Wicked? Get over your offended morality.
The ability to start with a stronger economy economy by turn 1 improvements is an advantage for the modmods. Similarly, civics like city states greatly cut down maintanence costs. That is not a opinion, it is a fact. While you can argue that he might have other problems, starting economy will not be one of them with the other mods. There is evil conspiracy against him in that suggestion.
The alternative is to go start another thread to vent your need to suggest FF or RiFE as alternatives to FfH2, rather than misleading new FfH2 players by responding to their requests for help with FfH2 by suggesting they switch.
The alternative is desirable, at least from my perspective, because then there will not be a need for someone watch for and respond to falsehoods such as yours to protect those who are not in a position to recognize them for what they are.
There's no venting to be done in the first place, nor are there any falsehoods. The alternative mods offer expanded economic options to manage the economy. You haven't even tried to deny it in the least.
I'm sorry if any of those things were not clear in my original response. Instead of spelling out my exact meaning in harsh terms, I chose to take a subtle tack in which I implied much of what I felt needed to be said. My hope was that I could avoid a thread derailment, but clearly I failed.
Duh of the week, though 'subtle' =/= condecension. Perhaps you should remember this next time you want to 'correct' someone else.
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