Yet not another earth map for CIV 6

[Ido Panski]

I am playing the game with the map but I havn't found any Natural Wonders
are they not implemented in the Mod yet?

 

[Monkeysaur]

Thank you for making this!

One thing which is an issue for me (and always has been in every Earth map) is that I play as England, and it was hard enough in the previous version of the game, but now with districts, there is barely room for one City in England!

I guess I can try to tweak the map to help me out when the editor is released.

Thanks again, been wanting this map so much!

 

[civcrashed]

Thank you for making this!

One thing which is an issue for me (and always has been in every Earth map) is that I play as England, and it was hard enough in the previous version of the game, but now with districts, there is barely room for one City in England!

Maybe if there is a larger version on the 230x115 size or if there's a map that uses the entire tile allotment for just Europe in the future. Otherwise... at least England has a good navy!

 

[Monkeysaur]

Maybe if there is a larger version on the 230x115 size or if there's a map that uses the entire tile allotment for just Europe in the future. Otherwise... at least England has a good navy!

Lol yes exactly! My PC isn't the greatest either so I may have to edit a standard size earth map and eat into France a little. XD

 

[Ibrahuwuquq]

Hello, someone could tell me if the initial location of their civilizations appears well on the map?

 

[Fakoleon]

Hello, someone could tell me if the initial location of their civilizations appears well on the map?

This is not implemented yet

 

[Gedemon]

Ok, I'm going to request your help for the TSL.

In AppOptions.txt in "..\Documents\my games\Sid Meier's Civilization VI" you can change

EnableDebugPlotInfo 0

to

EnableDebugPlotInfo 1

It will add a line in the plot tooltip like this:

Plot#:2165@(65,25),vis:8

where x = 65 and y = 25

And here is the old table for YnAEMP:

Spoiler :

        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_AMERICA</Type>
            <X>155</X>
            <Y>63</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ARABIA</Type>
            <X>37</X>
            <Y>41</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_AZTEC</Type>
            <X>138</X>
            <Y>49</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_CHINA</Type>
            <X>83</X>
            <Y>65</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_EGYPT</Type>
            <X>32</X>
            <Y>43</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ENGLAND</Type>
            <X>12</X>
            <Y>70</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_FRANCE</Type>
            <X>13</X>
            <Y>65</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_GERMANY</Type>
            <X>22</X>
            <Y>69</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_GREECE</Type>
            <X>28</X>
            <Y>55</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_INDIA</Type>
            <X>61</X>
            <Y>52</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_IROQUOIS</Type>
            <X>151</X>
            <Y>71</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_JAPAN</Type>
            <X>94</X>
            <Y>57</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_OTTOMAN</Type>
            <X>37</X>
            <Y>58</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_PERSIA</Type>
            <X>48</X>
            <Y>50</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ROME</Type>
            <X>21</X>
            <Y>58</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_RUSSIA</Type>
            <X>38</X>
            <Y>72</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SIAM</Type>
            <X>74</X>
            <Y>41</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SONGHAI</Type>
            <X>12</X>
            <Y>41</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_BABYLON</Type>
            <X>43</X>
            <Y>50</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_MONGOL</Type>
            <X>73</X>
            <Y>71</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_INCA</Type>
            <X>153</X>
            <Y>27</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SPAIN</Type>
            <X>9</X>
            <Y>57</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_POLYNESIA</Type>
            <X>121</X>
            <Y>48</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_DENMARK</Type>
            <X>22</X>
            <Y>75</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_KOREA</Type>
            <X>89</X>
            <Y>61</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_AUSTRIA</Type>
            <X>24</X>
            <Y>65</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_BYZANTIUM</Type>
            <X>31</X>
            <Y>59</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_CARTHAGE</Type>
            <X>18</X>
            <Y>52</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_CELTS</Type>
            <X>9</X>
            <Y>77</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ETHIOPIA</Type>
            <X>35</X>
            <Y>34</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_HUNS</Type>
            <X>47</X>
            <Y>69</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_MAYA</Type>
            <X>145</X>
            <Y>47</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_NETHERLANDS</Type>
            <X>16</X>
            <Y>70</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SWEDEN</Type>
            <X>26</X>
            <Y>77</Y>
        </Row>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_PORTUGAL</Type>
            <X>5</X>
            <Y>55</Y>
        </Replace>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_VENICE</Type>
            <X>21</X>
            <Y>62</Y>
        </Replace>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_POLAND</Type>
            <X>28</X>
            <Y>69</Y>
        </Replace>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_BRAZIL</Type>
            <X>169</X>
            <Y>24</Y>
        </Replace>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ASSYRIA</Type>
            <X>42</X>
            <Y>54</Y>
        </Replace>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_INDONESIA</Type>
            <X>80</X>
            <Y>26</Y>
        </Replace>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_MOROCCO</Type>
            <X>6</X>
            <Y>50</Y>
        </Replace>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ZULU</Type>
            <X>32</X>
            <Y>9</Y>
        </Replace>
        <Replace>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SHOSHONE</Type>
            <X>136</X>
            <Y>71</Y>
        </Replace>

You can help me by filling the table for the new civs (and the city-states) and discussing the possible change of the old ones.

Here are the Civilization tag for reference

Spoiler :

CIVILIZATION_AMERICA
CIVILIZATION_ARABIA
CIVILIZATION_AZTEC
CIVILIZATION_BRAZIL
CIVILIZATION_CHINA
CIVILIZATION_EGYPT
CIVILIZATION_ENGLAND
CIVILIZATION_FRANCE
CIVILIZATION_GERMANY
CIVILIZATION_GREECE
CIVILIZATION_INDIA
CIVILIZATION_JAPAN
CIVILIZATION_KONGO
CIVILIZATION_NORWAY
CIVILIZATION_ROME
CIVILIZATION_RUSSIA
CIVILIZATION_SCYTHIA
CIVILIZATION_SPAIN
CIVILIZATION_SUMERIA
CIVILIZATION_AMSTERDAM
CIVILIZATION_BRUSSELS
CIVILIZATION_BUENOS_AIRES
CIVILIZATION_CARTHAGE
CIVILIZATION_GENEVA
CIVILIZATION_HATTUSA
CIVILIZATION_HONG_KONG
CIVILIZATION_JAKARTA
CIVILIZATION_JERUSALEM
CIVILIZATION_KABUL
CIVILIZATION_KANDY
CIVILIZATION_KUMASI
CIVILIZATION_LA_VENTA
CIVILIZATION_LISBON
CIVILIZATION_MOHENJO_DARO
CIVILIZATION_NAN_MADOL
CIVILIZATION_PRESLAV
CIVILIZATION_SEOUL
CIVILIZATION_STOCKHOLM
CIVILIZATION_TORONTO
CIVILIZATION_VALLETTA
CIVILIZATION_VILNIUS
CIVILIZATION_YEREVAN
CIVILIZATION_ZANZIBAR

TIA

 

[Fakoleon]

Is there a way to reveal the map, or access it in other way?

 

[KamikazeJo]

Do you require this for the giant or ludicrous map sizes? Or both?

 

[Gedemon]

that's for the giant earth map.

 

[Fakoleon]

Ok, this is what I got so far it's just major civ for now, I will do CS right after, some number will change for sure, but it's a first placement.
Some civ are very close and could not be in a same game, like greece, note that I enter 2 time greece, 1st one is Athena, 2nd Sparta.
About Egyptian capital city, it's very close to Arabian one too

Spoiler :

 <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_AMERICA</Type>
            <X>155</X>
            <Y>64</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ARABIA</Type>
            <X>30</X>
            <Y>48</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_AZTEC</Type>
            <X>138</X>
            <Y>49</Y>
        </Row>
               <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_BRAZIL</Type>
            <X>165</X>
            <Y>20</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_CHINA</Type>
            <X>83</X>
            <Y>65</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_EGYPT</Type>
            <X>32</X>
            <Y>43</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ENGLAND</Type>
            <X>11</X>
            <Y>71</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_FRANCE</Type>
            <X>12</X>
            <Y>67</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_GERMANY</Type>
            <X>22</X>
            <Y>69</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_GREECE</Type>
            <X>28</X>
            <Y>56</Y>
        </Row>
       <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_GREECE</Type>
            <X>27</X>
            <Y>55</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_INDIA</Type>
            <X>61</X>
            <Y>52</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_JAPAN</Type>
            <X>94</X>
            <Y>57</Y>
        </Row>
       <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_KONGO</Type>
            <X>22</X>
            <Y>22</Y>
        </Row>
       <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_NORWAY</Type>
            <X>21</X>
            <Y>85</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ROME</Type>
            <X>20</X>
            <Y>57</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_RUSSIA</Type>
            <X>35</X>
            <Y>74</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SCYTHIA</Type>
            <X>49</X>
            <Y>75</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SPAIN</Type>
            <X>7</X>
            <Y>57</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SUMERIA</Type>
            <X>39</X>
            <Y>51</Y>
        </Row>

 

[Ankorafeonix]

Just wanna add my thanks for getting this rolled out so quickly!

One strange thing I noticed on giant maps is that for the first 5-6 turns, they went fairly quickly (maybe 10-15 seconds), then all of a sudden turns started taking a minute on average - no apparent cause. I can't imagine what the AI must be doing for turn length to jump so drastically and so early in the game. I'll try another few games and see if I can narrow down exactly what's causing it.

 

[Gedemon]

@Fakoleon thank you !

I've got also a list in PM, posting here for cross-checking

Spoiler :

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_BRAZIL</Type>
<X>168</X>
<Y>23</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_KONGO</Type>
<X>21</X>
<Y>30</Y>  
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_NORWAY</Type>
<X>17</X>
<Y>80</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_SCYTHIA</Type>
<X>36</X>
<Y>67</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_SUMERIA</Type>
<X>40</X>
<Y>50</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_AMSTERDAM</Type>
<X>16</X>
<Y>72</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_BRUSSELS</Type>
<X>14</X>
<Y>69</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_BUENOS_AIRES</Type>
<X>162</X>
<Y>18</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_CARTHAGE</Type>
<X>18</X>
<Y>52</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_GENEVA</Type>
<X>16</X>
<Y>64</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_HATTUSA</Type>
<X>36</X>
<Y>59</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_HONG_KONG</Type>
<X>81</X>
<Y>46</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_JAKARTA</Type>
<X>180</X>
<Y>25</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_JERUSALEM</Type>
<X>36</X>
<Y>49</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_KABUL</Type>
<X>55</X>
<Y>58</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_KANDY</Type>
<X>63</X>
<Y>32</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_KUMASI</Type>
<X>12</X>
<Y>34</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_LA_VENTA</Type>
<X>144</X>
<Y>47</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_LISBON</Type>
<X>4</X>
<Y>56</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_MOHENJO_DARO</Type>
<X>55</X>
<Y>49</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_NAN_MADOL</Type>
<X>105</X>
<Y>39</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_PRESLAV</Type>
<X>29</X>
<Y>61</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_SEOUL</Type>
<X>89</X>
<Y>62</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_STOCKHOLM</Type>
<X>24</X>
<Y>80</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_TORONTO</Type>
<X>152</X>
<Y>68</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_VALLETTA</Type>
<X>22</X>
<Y>51</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_VILNIUS</Type>
<X>29</X>
<Y>74</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_YEREVAN</Type>
<X>41</X>
<Y>59</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_ZANZIBAR</Type>
<X>35</X>
<Y>26</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_RUSSIA</Type>
<X>31</X>
<Y>78</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_CHINA</Type>
<X>80</X>
<Y>65</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_AMERICA</Type>
<X>154</X>
<Y>163</Y>
</Row>

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_ARABIA</Type>
<X>36</X>
<Y>43</Y>
</Row>

 

[Fakoleon]

Ok, and then the CS, couple notes:
In buenos Aires area, you should remove 1 land tile, so it grant access to water for the city, and topology would look closer to reality
Can you put cities on top of mountains like Incas civ in Vox populi mod of Civ V? it would fit kumasi city I guess
I'm not sure about Nan Madol and Vilnius, if someone can confirm placement or not

And I will double check your list with mine to see how it goes

Edit: Ok, half have common coordinate, other is 1-2 tile difference, in your list, Arabia has the Civ V location, I made the same mistake at first, but they have different location in VI
And about Egyptian location, I'm not sure where it is, in my list it's the Civ V default location, but for what I found it's very close to Arabian one

Spoiler :

 <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_AMSTERDAM</Type>
            <X>15</X>
            <Y>71</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_BRUSSELS</Type>
            <X>15</X>
            <Y>70</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_BUENOS_AIRES</Type>
            <X>161</X>
            <Y>16</Y>
        </Row>
       <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_CARTHAGE</Type>
            <X>18</X>
            <Y>52</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_GENEVA</Type>
            <X>15</X>
            <Y>63</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_HATTUSA</Type>
            <X>36</X>
            <Y>59</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_HONG_KONG</Type>
            <X>82</X>
            <Y>48</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_JAKARTA</Type>
            <X>80</X>
            <Y>26</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_JERUSALEM</Type>
            <X>36</X>
            <Y>51</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_KABUL</Type>
            <X>53</X>
            <Y>55</Y>
        </Row>
       <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_KANDY</Type>
            <X>62</X>
            <Y>33</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_KUMASI</Type>
            <X>11</X>
            <Y>34</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_LA_VENTA</Type>
            <X>143</X>
            <Y>47</Y>
        </Row>
       <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_LISBON</Type>
            <X>4</X>
            <Y>56</Y>
        </Row>
       <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_MOHENJO_DARO</Type>
            <X>55</X>
            <Y>52</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_NAN_MADOL</Type>
            <X>105</X>
            <Y>31</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_PRESLAV</Type>
            <X>31</X>
            <Y>62</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_SEOUL</Type>
            <X>89</X>
            <Y>62</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_STOCKHOLM</Type>
            <X>24</X>
            <Y>79</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_TORONTO</Type>
            <X>153</X>
            <Y>69</Y>
        </Row>
         <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_VALLETTA</Type>
            <X>22</X>
            <Y>51</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_VILNIUS</Type>
            <X>28</X>
            <Y>72</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_YEREVAN</Type>
            <X>43</X>
            <Y>59</Y>
        </Row>
        <Row>
            <Type>CIVILIZATION_ZANZIBAR</Type>
            <X>33</X>
            <Y>27</Y>
        </Row>

 

[smartclick20]

@Fakkoleon: Hi the List is from me. Omg you are right! The Capital of Arabia is Cairo and not Mecca anymore.

Nan Madol is between Guam, Marshall Islands and Papua New Guinea.

Vilnius is the Capital of Lithuania it is between Königsberg, Riga , Minsk,

 

[Gedemon]

We may want to keep the starting location as far away as possibe for civilizations, if we can implement auto-naming for at least the starting positions, that will fix a part of the problem.

 

[smartclick20]

Egyptian: Ra-Kedet means build by ra

Râ-Kedet, was the original name of the city of Alexandria on the northern coast of Egypt, before it was renamed by Alexander the Great

<Row>
<Type>CIVILIZATION_EGYPT</Type>
<X>28</X>
<Y>49</Y>
</Row>

 

[Fakoleon]

Ok, that was what I found about Ra-kedet, thanks for confirmation, so technically, Egyptian and Arabian cities are just 1 tile away
Rename Arabian one to Mecca and place it on Civ V default location could be a good compromise, if this is still historically plausible .

Other civ with close placement issue are Greece, but I don't know how we can fix this actually, it's more one or the other for now
France and England are close too but nothing we can do unless larger map for now

Scythia capital is actually very close to where Russian one is and they have the biggest placement number difference in our list, this will need an other check.

 

[rock_and_ride]

would it be an option to just get rid of the 3 tiles boundaries? i know that you would be able to place cities next to each other, but would that be a show stopper? or reduce it to 1 tile? or would it end in an AI spreading city after city next to each other?

 

[Katalliaan]

Are you planning on placing the natural wonders in their real-world locations as well? I can hunt them down if you are, just need to know what format you want the data in.