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dutchking said:
From what I hear it runs on Vista, I've never used Vista, but isn't it basically the same thing as XP with a new look?
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And OSX is Linux with a new look :p

But it runs fine on Vista, and I wouldn't know why it shouldn't run fine on Vista, actually.

But it runs fine on my brother's computer and he's running Vista (although I don't know if he runs 32-bits or 64-bits, but it shouldn't make a difference).
dutchking said:
It includes warlords, so yeah, the warlords disc is pretty useless.
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It doesn't include the Warlords scenario's, I think.
 
dutchking said:
From what I hear it runs on Vista, I've never used Vista, but isn't it basically the same thing as XP with a new look?
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Not trying to start a flame war, but from what I gather Vista is a BUGGY version of XP with more of a MAC OS look and feel.

Sounds cute but until I hear its a LOT more stable, I'm fine with XP.

I love how Microsoft has even crippled some games so they'll ONLY install on Vista, even though there is no technical reason for it to be required (Geometry Wars Retro).
 
^Yeah, I've heard that about Vista too, and you can't run any old software on it either. And it is REALLY buggy and has tons of holes in it. It's too new to trust.
 
Sounds cute but until I hear its a LOT more stable, I'm fine with XP.
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My sister has it, as do some of the computers here at work. It's very stable and it doesn't look or feel anything like Mac, imo.

All of these comments from users playing cIV on Vista make me wanna just buy the new machine...but...I just can't bring myself to do it! Maybe I'll borrow a work laptop and see how it does on that. I do like XP, but if I'm gonna buy a new machine, I may as well get Vista unless it's gonna restrict what programs I can run.
 
LordGek said:
Not trying to start a flame war, but from what I gather Vista is a BUGGY version of XP with more of a MAC OS look and feel.

Sounds cute but until I hear its a LOT more stable, I'm fine with XP.
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Well it *is* a lot more stable than XP.
I learned that firsthand with a dualboot system and a corrupt memory module (which I only found out later).
Where Vista did crash once in a while and even gave me a BSOD, XP got corrupted beyond repair (BSOD's and a 'missing' HAL.dll).
Also with crashing drivers Vista *is* a lot more stable (because of a different driver-model (running in user-mode instead of kernel-mode).
dutchking said:
^Yeah, I've heard that about Vista too, and you can't run any old software on it either.
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I don't know how far back you want to go, but as long as SimEarth, Theme Hospital and SimTower works, I'm fine.
For older games (like Ultima Underworld) I use DosBox :)
And it is REALLY buggy and has tons of holes in it. It's too new to trust.
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Well the Vista I have on my computer isn't buggy at all. Never noticed anything.
Besides, with the UAC it's a lot safer (just like OSX, which also has a form of UAC).
(Edit: Or were you sarcastic? My apologies in that case!)

So, unless somebody has something to say they didn't just 'hear somewhere', I'd say:
Civ4 runs fine on both XP and Vista.
Let's get back ontopic. Let's talk about BTS :)
 
anandus said:
I don't know how far back you want to go, but as long as SimEarth, Theme Hospital and SimTower works, I'm fine.
For older games (like Ultima Underworld) I use DosBox :)
Well the Vista I have on my computer isn't buggy at all. Never noticed anything.
Besides, with the UAC it's a lot safer (just like OSX, which also has a form of UAC).
(Edit: Or were you sarcastic? My apologies in that case!)
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I wasn't being sarcastic, but you don't need to apologize. That was only from what I heard from a friend of mine. I really don't know much about Vista besides that, anyway, lets' get back on topic. :goodjob:
It doesn't include the Warlords scenario's, I think.
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Those really sucked though. Compared with what the BtS scenarios sound like.
 
I have both a Mac and a PC, which runs Vista 64-bit. As I mentioned before, Vanilla and Warlords run fine on it. Vista and OS X aren't very similar IMHO. I find Vista easy to use and stable, especially since I push it by using a 64-bit system (which necessitates use of some unsigned drivers), using SLI and overclocking both the CPU and GPU's. IOW, I invite crashes and get the occasional BSOD, but I get the occasional SWOD on Mac as well. I run Civ on the PC because it's a desktop, while my Mac is a MacBook Pro, so the graphics just can't keep up.

I find the whole Mac/PC debate kind of amusing. Mac is the Yin to PC's Yang. Because of its closed system, Mac "works." But I love the tinkering that PC's allow because its so much more customizable. I consider myself lucky to be able to use and enjoy both.
 
I called Best Buy and they say 25th for them...I leave on the 23rd! :cry: Maybe they'll have it faster in Canada! :please:
 
The video just posted says "Available July 25th" at the end. Does anyone know what market it's produced for? I'm assuming US since it's English with an unmistakable US accent.

That would make it two days later than I expected ...
 
MarkM said:
The video just posted says "Available July 25th" at the end. Does anyone know what market it's produced for? I'm assuming US since it's English with an unmistakable US accent.

That would make it two days later than I expected ...
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Games usually ship on a Tuesday and show up on the shelves on Wednesday so the 25th is when I would expect BtS to available.

Unless of course it magically appears a week early like it seems to be doing in Europe.
 
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