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Actually your capital won't flip, if I remember correctly. I think when I played as Timurids I had to conquer cities south of Samarkand.

The hard part would be to win before all the late civs spawn. You still have to conquer all of Persia...although once you become Shahanshah, you can lose the unproductive cities. If I'm correct the Timurids spawn in the mid 1300's...how do you plan to keep Samarkand and the other 2 that will flip?

I hope you guys are ready for the Mongols.

Lol a Sunni religious victory with disbanding the second holiest city of Islam. :rolleyes:

Lurker's comment: I'm a little concerned about your eventual stability. Why keep cities like Farah and Qandahar?

What about Herat? Doesn't it flip also to the Seljuks?

I would love to see a Sunni Byzantine, a Shiite Gujarat, an Orthodox Ayyubid and a Catholic Seljuk religious victory, please.:D

I wonder why you guys are going towards future Seljuk land. Herat and Merv will flip. Indian land is much better in terms of keeping long term.

I wouldn't expand anywhere except for around Lahore and Delhi. All the other areas you mentioned will eventually flip or are contested. I would play the Ghaznavids against the Ghorids. Mecca might be useful but it would be a major drain on your economy. Grow Lahore and Delhi so that you'll...

Lurker's comment: cutting down inflation is probably the right move.

Lurker's comment: this is going to be a loooonnnnng game.:D

SoI has done away with the usual concept of big fat cities, and practically forcing the player to choose the correct historical locations of cities. Plus the other mod components that are in it makes its historical flavor standout. (E.g. assassins came first from the Middle East)

That's fine with me. Philly or New York would make much better capitals. :D

Let's say there's a "nascent" period circa 1740...like colonists before there were "Americans." Random troops and workers (within certain pre-defined rules) would appear on the eastern American seaboard, and will be at peace with whoever owns that land. Of course if the player/AI decides to...

Everybody knows that there was no "American" civ that magically spawned in 1776. Arabia spawned more like in 630 (after the conquests). What if civs started with just military units, and only at certain key moments in history (like 1776) do cities flip or settlers appear? Just a thought.

Looks like NAm (at least partly) is essential for domination.

Are you referring to this strategy?:crazyeye: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10283042&postcount=108

Yeah, that has always puzzled me. From wiki: Again on the Komnenian army: Maybe the intent was to have the player hire more mercenary horse archers from the local tribes (which was true). But then it seems that the Byzantines used their own specific horse archers (differently...

Singapore is a TERRIBLE spot. It has little production, and the food is not that abundant. I.e. the whip doesn't work very fast there, compared to Jayakarta. If cities don't cost stability, I would build it AFTER I build all my other cities.

Who cares about Singapore--it's an unproductive city in RFC.:lol: Now Hong Kong is a totally different matter...