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Thracians. On par - timewise - with ancient Greeks, Celts (probably), Scythians and definitely preceeding - in time - Vikings, Macedonians, and almost every other European ethnical group already in the CIV game (like Romans, Russians, French, English, etc.) Reference: Herodotus.

Why not a normal game on a normal map?! this would be even more helpful to us, lesser fanatics, that look up from below...

Sorry, I'll pass. I need to adapt to what has changed due to the virus. And, btw, I surely would not have played my first SGOTM teaming with players whose skills I hold in awe. I am not that shy, just trying to keep within reasonable limits. I will probably be lurking as usual without posting as...

Thanks!:crazyeye: Already 6.79 Euro, but still a bargain! Is payment only thru credit card? Can't find info on the site...[edit: Found it, cc or pp]

Nice new - or is it? - avatar, WT! I liked the previous one better, and am too stupid to make sense of the new one, but it feels good you might be back in the game!:hatsoff:

Thanks to M under F and G for taking the time to read and reply and ESPECIALLY to D and NZ for trying to resurrect the SGOTM! I absolutely second Fippy - for all my opinion is worth - in that it is a great learning experience, even for mere onlookers, and I am very optimistic about teams, there...

/\ A couple of good questions that deserved answer or follow-up, and long ago. With all due respect and no intention to offend: 1. Why weren't those answered? Was there a PM exchange and tacit agreement to discontinue / disown? 2. SGOTMs seem to have been discontinued on C3 and C4. Never...

So, RIP ??! Schade, too bad... Thanks to all who have helped keep the SGOTM going, and to all participants who have provided me with some very pleasant hours!

Many thanks for the thread, DH! BTW, I am really impressed by the work done by Fried-berg in XT. They might have some chances in the run... I'm not following many of the threads in the forum, so I am quite surprised - and woed - by her/his level of thinking, planning and doing, not far from...

There are also a lot of lurkers who'd not play for some reasons, please, don't forget us, we're eager to have the fun that SGOTM ALWAYS provides. And I'm not completely sure, but even civ3 is alive...

I meant that I get the message that the game I have started does not qualify for HoF and GotM. Anyway, I'll dowlad and reinstall Patch 3.19, thanks for your help!

Sure. Admin rights provided, too. That's the problem, usually, but something else is not working properly in my case, it seems.

Same thing, although on Windows 7. A friend helped so I could start playing but all my games are under "no HOF and GOTM" and notning helps. I can't even download BOTMs.

@Folket: No they are not, and that's good news! There was a mention of the possibility to give up at the time when I wrote my first email, though...

@ Zhary: My message was in no way meant to lessen the quality of your work. On the contrary: intendedly or not, but you have created a situation that it is more fun to follow. And have done a good job of challenging the teams , they, or more precisely, the ones that I follow, seem to recognize...

Hark! Hark! Amazing News: Turbos might give up VERY EARLY! Unbelievable! This game seems to be out of their (usual) grasp - no early war, no horses, no (early) worker-stealing. The outcome: too little attention to securing their own turf (greedy eyes!), (MAYBE!) suboptimal teching, suboptimal...

As Boudica the XIII (ie 13th attempt) - 1899 Domination Victory, score of 48240. No submission as I can't get the Buffy run normally, and ... not Brennus... Very long and quite tedious as it was long clear Boudica had no challengers. Actually, Boudica the XII won a Conquest in 1883, score 47751.

It might seem roughly equal, but I believe - based on my low level of competence, of course - that having one 6-food+2-coin tile plus three 2-food+2-coin tiles is much better than having four 3-food tiles (even supplying 1 coin each).

@ HKJJ: Correct on both counts. My poor memory, my poor eyes... And YOU claim senility...

Events on!? Or are these coming up only in the BtS expansion? BTW, settling 1SE makes some sense (fast Plantation on two Sugars) - hoping to get something additional to whatever is there, too...