Ninja Dude
Sorry, I wasn't listening...
I'd definitely be interested.
New NESes, ideas, development, etc
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Milarqui
Deity
Other idea, based out of the other one I presented here not too much time ago.
Place: Fresh-Start, Non-Earth Map
Time: Twenty Minutes In The Future
WTH happens: a new technology allows for the exploration of Earths in Alternate Universes. One of these Earths has an outline very much different from anything else humanity has seen, and there is great interest in it. Initial explorations, done by robotic probes, show that many of the native animals and plants are similar, but different, to Earth. The initial teams, composed by several soldiers, engineers, masons and anything required to start a small self-sufficient colony, are deployed by nations and corporations, intent on getting the bigger slice of the cake. However, there is a problem with the whole transport system, as it only works about once each two months for unknown reasons. Communication can be handled just fine thanks to special radio towers that have been tested in many other occasions, but anything with mass can only come once every two months. As this is away from Earth, and things over there aren't exactly great, you can count on a war between all the groups to take control of this Earth for your bosses.
Types of people: Engineers (help with the construction and investigation), Investigators (guess what for), Masons (make buildings), Producers (obtain resources), Soldiers (protect the colonies), Workers (take resources and produce things)
Resources: Coal, Energy, Food, Oil, Ore, Metal, Wood
Buildings:
Map: the idea is that all the buildings will show on the map, will be connected by roads and can be attacked, taken over and/or destroyed by enemy groups. I have yet to decide whether the whole map will be shown or whether people will only see their part of it.
Military Units:
Expansion: your soldiers will be needed to protect your buildings and other people, not only from other competitors, but also from the local wildlife. Thus, they must be carefully preserved. From your soldiers you will get all your military units. At the start all you will have will be Infantry, but as you make more factories, ships and planes you will be getting better weaponry with which you can try to blast off your enemies.
Technology: here comes the fun part. You can make up any kind of ideas, as long as you can present it as actually researchable. You want to make Tesla Coils? You can, as long as you say how it would work. You want to make mini-nuclear bombs? You'd better point out how to do this. Pulse rifles? Sure, no problem. Wormhole transportation? Well, actually, that one would be really hard to do. The idea is not that you understand everything behind how things work, but that you are able to provide something to start with.
EDIT: Radio Tower: the Radio Tower is the most important building you have. You need it to make contact with Earth, request supplies and receive missions from your bosses. It acts as the place where the people and supplies will appear in. If you somehow lose it, while you won't have lost, you will not have a way to tell your bosses about it, and you will have to do your best to recover it, or you might lose your standing with your bosses and be forced to join other faction or become pirates. You will really have to protect this with everything you have, or else you will be screwed. It can be rebuilt if destroyed, but it will take lots of work from the Investigators and Masons, as well as loads of Metal and Oil.
Walls: you can build sets of walls to protect your colony from enemy attacks, as well as the potentially dangerous flora and fauna in this strange Alternate Earth. They have to be built by Masons with Metal and Oil, and can be manned by your troops if you think it necessary.
Railways: fundamental for a correct working of your settlement. Masons use Oil to build them, and they connect the buildings, bringing resources from Mines and Oil Wells to Factories, food from Farms to Houses and anything else you think. (Note: I've changed from Roads to Railways because (a) it can take more resources at the same time and (b) it doesn't actually need all that Oil, which would be required if it were Roads+Trucks. You are going to need that Oil for the Power Plants, Tanks, Artillery and all the Ships and Planes.
What do you think?
Place: Fresh-Start, Non-Earth Map
Time: Twenty Minutes In The Future
WTH happens: a new technology allows for the exploration of Earths in Alternate Universes. One of these Earths has an outline very much different from anything else humanity has seen, and there is great interest in it. Initial explorations, done by robotic probes, show that many of the native animals and plants are similar, but different, to Earth. The initial teams, composed by several soldiers, engineers, masons and anything required to start a small self-sufficient colony, are deployed by nations and corporations, intent on getting the bigger slice of the cake. However, there is a problem with the whole transport system, as it only works about once each two months for unknown reasons. Communication can be handled just fine thanks to special radio towers that have been tested in many other occasions, but anything with mass can only come once every two months. As this is away from Earth, and things over there aren't exactly great, you can count on a war between all the groups to take control of this Earth for your bosses.
Types of people: Engineers (help with the construction and investigation), Investigators (guess what for), Masons (make buildings), Producers (obtain resources), Soldiers (protect the colonies), Workers (take resources and produce things)
Resources: Coal, Energy, Food, Oil, Ore, Metal, Wood
Buildings:
- Airport (A): provides planes and housing for planes, manned by Workers and Engineers, requires Metal, Energy and Oil, built with Metal.
- Barracks (B): provides training for every military unit, requires Energy, built with Wood and Metal.
- Drydock Port (D): provides ships and housing for ships, manned by Workers and Engineers, requires Metal, Energy and Oil, built with Metal.
- Factory (F): provides anything you may require, requires Energy and materials for what the factory is building, manned by Workers and Engineers, built with Metal.
- Farm (G): provides Food, requires Energy, manned by Producers, built with Wood.
- House (H): provides housing for everyone, requires Energy, built with Wood.
- Laboratory (L): provides I+D+i Points (required for technology development), requires Energy, manned by Investigators and Engineers, built with Metal.
- Lumber Camp (W): provides Wood, requires Energy, manned by Producers, built with Wood.
- Mine (M): provides Coal or Ore, requires Energy, manned by Producers, built with Metal and Wood.
- Oil Well (O): provides Oil, manned by Producers, built with Metal.
- Power Plant (P): provides Energy, requires Oil or Coal, manned by Producers, built with Metal.
- Solar Power Plant (S): provides Energy (less than Power Plant), manned by Producers, built with Metal and Ore.
- Radio Tower (T): provides contact with Earth, requires Energy.
Map: the idea is that all the buildings will show on the map, will be connected by roads and can be attacked, taken over and/or destroyed by enemy groups. I have yet to decide whether the whole map will be shown or whether people will only see their part of it.
Military Units:
- Land: Artillery, Infantry, Tanks
- Sea: Carriers, Destroyers, Submarines
- Air: Fighters, Bombers, Transports
Expansion: your soldiers will be needed to protect your buildings and other people, not only from other competitors, but also from the local wildlife. Thus, they must be carefully preserved. From your soldiers you will get all your military units. At the start all you will have will be Infantry, but as you make more factories, ships and planes you will be getting better weaponry with which you can try to blast off your enemies.
Technology: here comes the fun part. You can make up any kind of ideas, as long as you can present it as actually researchable. You want to make Tesla Coils? You can, as long as you say how it would work. You want to make mini-nuclear bombs? You'd better point out how to do this. Pulse rifles? Sure, no problem. Wormhole transportation? Well, actually, that one would be really hard to do. The idea is not that you understand everything behind how things work, but that you are able to provide something to start with.
EDIT: Radio Tower: the Radio Tower is the most important building you have. You need it to make contact with Earth, request supplies and receive missions from your bosses. It acts as the place where the people and supplies will appear in. If you somehow lose it, while you won't have lost, you will not have a way to tell your bosses about it, and you will have to do your best to recover it, or you might lose your standing with your bosses and be forced to join other faction or become pirates. You will really have to protect this with everything you have, or else you will be screwed. It can be rebuilt if destroyed, but it will take lots of work from the Investigators and Masons, as well as loads of Metal and Oil.
Walls: you can build sets of walls to protect your colony from enemy attacks, as well as the potentially dangerous flora and fauna in this strange Alternate Earth. They have to be built by Masons with Metal and Oil, and can be manned by your troops if you think it necessary.
Railways: fundamental for a correct working of your settlement. Masons use Oil to build them, and they connect the buildings, bringing resources from Mines and Oil Wells to Factories, food from Farms to Houses and anything else you think. (Note: I've changed from Roads to Railways because (a) it can take more resources at the same time and (b) it doesn't actually need all that Oil, which would be required if it were Roads+Trucks. You are going to need that Oil for the Power Plants, Tanks, Artillery and all the Ships and Planes.
What do you think?
Northen Wolf
Young Hunter
@Above
Seems very interesting
Seems very interesting
Milarqui
Deity
More:
The two attached images show an example of how the map would look like and the symbols for every building.
Stats:
Note: the sample stats don't have the maths adjusted, its just so that you get a handle of my idea.
The two attached images show an example of how the map would look like and the symbols for every building.
Stats:
Spoiler :
Note: the sample stats don't have the maths adjusted, its just so that you get a handle of my idea.
For anyone who may comment, does the below cultural template seem sufficient to cover everything required for creating a culture? Additionally, could any outsider (to the NES) be able to use a specific culture's template to easily understand the culture in question? Thanks if you reply.
[Culture Name] / Player
Color: [of your Culture]
Language Family: [Add a description of your peoples language (and writing system if possible), and from what other languages it may have evolved from]. Excellent series of examples starts here.
Descent Rights: [How do your people trace descent?]
Inheritance Rights: [How do your people pass on the material and immaterial possessions of the recently deceased?]
Religion(s): [Add a description of your peoples religious ideas]
Climate Distribution: [Add a description for the preferable climate for your Culture]
Society: [Add a description of your peoples society: how it is structured, how it functions]
Nation Names: [Make a list of nation names for me to use. At least 10 or more, a couple dozen would be great]
Person Names: [Make a list of names for me to use of famous persons. At least 10 or more, a couple dozen would be great]
Place Names: [Make a list of place for me to use for notable places. At least 10 or more, a couple dozen would be great]
Values: [Initial ordering of your cultures values. Currently, you may only choose the first four values.]
[Culture Name] / Player
Color: [of your Culture]
Language Family: [Add a description of your peoples language (and writing system if possible), and from what other languages it may have evolved from]. Excellent series of examples starts here.
Descent Rights: [How do your people trace descent?]
Inheritance Rights: [How do your people pass on the material and immaterial possessions of the recently deceased?]
Religion(s): [Add a description of your peoples religious ideas]
Climate Distribution: [Add a description for the preferable climate for your Culture]
Society: [Add a description of your peoples society: how it is structured, how it functions]
Nation Names: [Make a list of nation names for me to use. At least 10 or more, a couple dozen would be great]
Person Names: [Make a list of names for me to use of famous persons. At least 10 or more, a couple dozen would be great]
Place Names: [Make a list of place for me to use for notable places. At least 10 or more, a couple dozen would be great]
Values: [Initial ordering of your cultures values. Currently, you may only choose the first four values.]
Spoiler VALUES: :
Milarqui
Deity
@Matt0088: My guess is that those stats are quite good. The Inheritance Rights are quite interesting, too.
@Everyone: Phase 3 of my planning for MilarNES III: Battle for Wegener-2. Some ideas about costs and production for each building:
Per Turn Output.
Building cost (Small):
Airport: 5000 Metal, 5000 WP
Barracks: 1000 Metal, 2000 Wood, 3000 WP
Drydock: 5000 Metal, 5000 WP
Factory: 7000, Metal, 7000 WP
Farm: 2500 Wood, 2500 WP
House: 2000 Metal, 2000 Wood, 4000 WP
Laboratory: 5000 Metal, 5000 WP
Lumber Camp: 3000 Wood, 3000 WP
Mine: 2500 Metal, 2500 Wood, 5000 WP
Oil Well: 4000 Metal, 4000 WP
Thermic Power Plant: 5000 Metal, 5000 WP
Solar Power Plant: 2500 Metal, 2500 Ore, 5000 WP
Railway: 5 Oil, 1 WP (per pixel) -> Railways are always 3 pixel wide
Wall: 5 Metal, 1 WP (per 5x1 rectangle) -> Walls are always 5 pixel wide
To build the Medium and Big versions of each building, you require the Small and Medium buildings (respectively) and spend the same quantity of resources and Work Points.
Military Units:
If you think the prices or capabilities of anything should be changed, tell me. I'll welcome any feedback about this NES.
EDIT: One thing: while the blank map is going to be provided, everyone else will have to work on their part of the map. That is, the players will have to make the choices about where to place the buildings, how to connect the buildings with railways, making the expansions...
Work Points: When building, 1 Mason will produce 1 Work Point if he has 1 piece of material required for construction (save for Railways and Walls, which require 5 Oil and 5 Metal, respectively). The Work Points generated at Factories, Airports and Drydocks will depend on the received Energy and the number of Workers and Engineers it has (1 Engineer is required per each 10 Workers), so going with half the workers and all energy will produce half the maximum Work Points.
@Everyone: Phase 3 of my planning for MilarNES III: Battle for Wegener-2. Some ideas about costs and production for each building:
Per Turn Output.
- Production Buildings: Small ones need 100 Producers and 500 Energy to work at 100%, Medium ones need 200 Producers and 1000 Energy, Big ones require 300 Producers and 1500 Energy.
- Coal Mine: Small = 400 Coal, Medium = 1200 Coal, Big = 2400 Coal
- Farm: Small = 500 Food, Medium = 1500 Food, Big = 3000 Food
- Lumber Camp: Small = 500 Wood, Medium = 1500 Wood, Big = 3000 Wood
- Oil Well: Small = 200 Oil, Medium = 600 Oil, Big = 1200 Oil
- Ore Mine: Small = 300 Ore, Medium = 900 Ore, Big = 1800 Ore
- Energy Plants: Small ones need 200 Workers, Medium ones need 400 Workers, Big ones need 600 Workers to be able to work at 100%. Energy production can be varied at the needs of the plant owner.
- Thermic Power Plant: need 2 Coal or 1 Oil to produce 2 E. Small ones can generate up to 2000 Energy, Medium ones 6000 Energy, Big ones 18000 Energy.
- Solar Power Plant: Small ones can generate up to 1000 Energy, Medium ones 3000 Energy, Big ones 9000 Energy.
- Factory: Small ones require 200 Workers, 20 Engineers and 500 Energy and make up to 1000 Work Points. Medium ones 600 Workers, 60 Engineers, 1500 Energy and up to 3000 Work Points, Big ones 1800 Workers, 180 Engineers, 6000 Energy and up to 9000 Work Points. Metal factories need 1 Coal, 1 Ore and 1 Work point to make 1 Metal.
- Airport/Drydock: Small ones require 200 Workers, 20 Engineers and 500 Energy and make up to 500 Work Points, Medium ones 600 Workers, 60 Engineers, 1000 Energy and up to 1500 Work Points, Big ones 1800 Workers, 180 Engineers, 1000 Energy and up to 4500 Work Points. Every 1 Work Point needs 1 Metal to be used.
- Radio Tower: Requires 500 Energy constantly.
- House: Small ones require 500 Energy and can host 5000 people, Medium ones 1000 Energy and 10000 people, Big ones 1500 Energy and 15000 people.
- Barracks: Small ones need 500 Energy to train 1500 Soldiers, Medium ones need 1000 Energy to train 3000 Soldiers, Big ones need 1500 Energy to train 4500 Soldiers.
- Laboratory: Small ones require 500 Investigators, 200 Engineers and 1000 Energy to produce 600 RDI points, Medium ones need 1000 Investigators, 400 Engineers and 2000 Energy to produce 1200 RDI points, Big ones need 1500 Investigators, 800 Engineers and 2000 Energy to produce 2400 RDI points.
Building cost (Small):
Airport: 5000 Metal, 5000 WP
Barracks: 1000 Metal, 2000 Wood, 3000 WP
Drydock: 5000 Metal, 5000 WP
Factory: 7000, Metal, 7000 WP
Farm: 2500 Wood, 2500 WP
House: 2000 Metal, 2000 Wood, 4000 WP
Laboratory: 5000 Metal, 5000 WP
Lumber Camp: 3000 Wood, 3000 WP
Mine: 2500 Metal, 2500 Wood, 5000 WP
Oil Well: 4000 Metal, 4000 WP
Thermic Power Plant: 5000 Metal, 5000 WP
Solar Power Plant: 2500 Metal, 2500 Ore, 5000 WP
Railway: 5 Oil, 1 WP (per pixel) -> Railways are always 3 pixel wide
Wall: 5 Metal, 1 WP (per 5x1 rectangle) -> Walls are always 5 pixel wide
To build the Medium and Big versions of each building, you require the Small and Medium buildings (respectively) and spend the same quantity of resources and Work Points.
Military Units:
- Land:
- Infantry: All soldiers, upon coming to Wegener-2, will be this. They will form the backbone of your army, are required to man the Walls and can be paradropped. Their main weakness is their need to eat and their slowness. 1 Infantry = 1 Soldier. Each Infantry needs 1 Metal per month.
- Tanks: A tank needs to be built in a Factory. They are fast and powerful, good for invading terrain, but lack the defensive abilities of Infantry. Can also act as APCs (armoured personal carriers) for 10 Infantry soldiers if they aren't fighting. 1 Tank = 10 Soldiers and 200 Metal. Each tank needs 10 Oil and 5 Metal per month.
- Artillery: An artillery unit must be built in a Factory. They are slow and weak against Infantry attacks, but can strike at far away points and blast Tanks for all their worth. 1 Artillery = 5 Soldiers and 150 Metal. Each Artillery unit needs 5 Oil and 5 Metal per month.
- Sea: ships must be built in the Drydock.
- Carriers: These big ships can carry both troops and planes across the seas, as well as launching those planes for aerial fights. Their biggest lack is that they don't have the sea-punching ability of other ships, and thus must be protected. They can carry 50 planes and 250 Soldiers with their equipment (yeah, that means they can carry 25 tanks or 50 artilleries). 1 Carrier = 150 Soldiers and 5000 Metal. Each Carrier needs 100 Oil and 20 Metal per month.
- Destroyers: These are the jack-of-all-trades of your navy. They can attack at the sea, at the air and even bomb the land. They can also track and attack submarines. However, their being jack-of-all-trades means that they are master at nothing, so they can be overwhelmed by great numbers of anything. 1 Destroyer = 100 Soldiers and 4000 Metal. Each Destroyer needs 80 Oil and 30 Metal per month.
- Submarines: These are excellent for subtle missions in the sea. They can get near ships, blast them and get away before they can be attacked. They have a glaring weakness: depth charges thrown by destroyers can harm them, and if they are near the surface a bomber can destroy them. 1 Submarine = 50 Soldiers and 2000 Metal. Each Submarine needs 50 Oil and 10 Metal per month.
- Air:
- Fighters: The kings of the air, they can destroy any plane that comes near them. Through the doctrine of air supremacy, they can protect their fellow planes as they travel, using their weaponry to do so. However, they lack power to attack ground objectives, so an anti-air unit can destroy them. 1 Fighter = 2 Soldiers and 300 Metal. Each Fighter needs 30 Oil and 20 Metal per month.
- Bombers: The terror of the ground units, a bomber can destroy anything that is on the ground near them by using their bombs and missiles. However, since they need space for the bombs, they have to sacrifice most of their air defensive capabilities, leaving them quite vulnerable to fighter attacks. 1 Bomber = 10 Soldiers and 500 Metal. Each Bomber needs 60 Oil and 40 Metal per month.
- Transports: Transports can become one of the best weapons of an army, if well used. Although they are thoroughly lacking in defensive measures, they make this up with a big usefulness: they can bring resources from one place to other, drop them for advancing armies and even be used to drop paratroopers behind enemy lines. 1 Transport can carry 10000 units of resources (save Energy) or 100 Infantry soldiers. 1 Transport = 15 Soldiers and 700 Metal. Each Transport needs 80 Oil per month.
If you think the prices or capabilities of anything should be changed, tell me. I'll welcome any feedback about this NES.
EDIT: One thing: while the blank map is going to be provided, everyone else will have to work on their part of the map. That is, the players will have to make the choices about where to place the buildings, how to connect the buildings with railways, making the expansions...
Work Points: When building, 1 Mason will produce 1 Work Point if he has 1 piece of material required for construction (save for Railways and Walls, which require 5 Oil and 5 Metal, respectively). The Work Points generated at Factories, Airports and Drydocks will depend on the received Energy and the number of Workers and Engineers it has (1 Engineer is required per each 10 Workers), so going with half the workers and all energy will produce half the maximum Work Points.
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
I think the Destroyers should be masters at Anti Submarine warfare, and to provide Air Defenses add Cruisers.
I also disagree with using Carriers as troop transports, they simply do not have the space. Unless you took out another 50 planes, I just do not see where you will have room to place tanks, artillery and bunks for 200+ soldiers without compromising the integrity of the Carrier's main purpose, which is to provide air cover during invasions.
If you can, add troop transports that can ferry up to 2000 troops, 100 tanks and 50-100 artillery pieces (including anti air and anti tank artillery). It would be relatively cheap to build and would be utterly defenseless if not bunched with a fleet.
I also disagree with using Carriers as troop transports, they simply do not have the space. Unless you took out another 50 planes, I just do not see where you will have room to place tanks, artillery and bunks for 200+ soldiers without compromising the integrity of the Carrier's main purpose, which is to provide air cover during invasions.
If you can, add troop transports that can ferry up to 2000 troops, 100 tanks and 50-100 artillery pieces (including anti air and anti tank artillery). It would be relatively cheap to build and would be utterly defenseless if not bunched with a fleet.
Milarqui
Deity
Thanks for your feedback, germanicus! Your advice is quite sound, and I guess you are right. The main problem is that I would like to have the same number of kinds of units of each class. Should I add your idea of Carriers/Cruisers/Destroyers/Sea Transports/Submarines, I'd have to add a couple of extra units to everything else.
See if this sounds good:
Land: Anti-Air Artillery, Field Artillery, Infantry, Marines, Tanks
Sea: Carriers, Cruisers, Destroyers, Sea Transports, Submarines
Air: Bombers, Fighters, Helicopters, Transports, (?)
If you have a good idea for the last one, tell me, please. I'm between Airships and Missiles.
Edit: I'm going to go for the Airships, in the end.
Military Units: the soldiers for everything must be trained at a Barracks.
Spoiler :
I'm going to need some feedback on something else: If I assign an Infantry unit a power of 1 (for fights), what power should other units have? Base would be:
Land: AAA = 10, FArt = 15, Inf = 1, Mar = 3, Tank = 10
Sea: Car = 15, Cru = 25, Des = 25, SeaT = 0, Sub = 15
Air: Airs = 15, Bom = 30, Fig = 25, Hel = 25, AirT = 0
Starlife
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Hi. Ok, so I posted here a while back thinking about doing this whole thing. And I just asked for some maps in the map topic. That map was for a tabletop/pen and paper game I am running with my friends here at home. I have for a long time been a fan of Space 1889, which has caused many debates between myself and other RPG fans (but that's another story altogether!). The mechanics of Space 1889 are... strange. And not very streamlined. So that's the long story short.
If you don't know what that is, you can google it, because it is really complicated to explain here in some amount of words. Ok, I'll try. So it is alternate history/industrial revolution science-fiction/Jules Verne-esque role-playing! In the 1850s, Thomas Edison invents an ether propeller (there is a British and German competitor as well, neither of which are as good as the ether propeller). With this, the industrialized world can travel to other planets within the solar system. sounds ridiculous. But any fan of Jules Verne would love to read up on this pen and paper RPG. In uni we would play it, and I loved to ref those games.
All scientific knowledge that is real in our world is turned upside down. For example, Venus is inhabited by Lizardfolk and dinosaurs. Mars has an advanced civilization in decline. And naturally, colonising other worlds becomes part of the Age of Imperialism. For example there are German colonies all over Venus and the British are teaching Martians how to speak English. It gets even crazier from there.
The ether is this theory that a substance flows through space and connects everything with ether wakes. So, you get a ship up to 20,000 feet in the sky, and propel it with the ether propeller, and it will travel through the ether safely to other worlds. There is ether turbulence, though, and other obstacles. How to get up to 20,000 feet? Well originally, it was near impossible, but once the first Edison expedition returned from Mars, they had discovered a plant on Mars called "liftwood", which could be attached to dirigibles and flyers and galleons and thus allow them to float and fly. Flight was discovered with this. Then these industrialized powers developed air forces. These would include sky galleons of Mars, ether flyers that could go from planet to planet, and then just planes or airships that would be used on Earth or other planets to fight in good old-fashioned late 19th century wars.
I've led my players through lots of weird and strange adventures with this Rp system. We are starting a new campaign in real life here, but I was asking for maps and posting this to let you all know why I'm using those maps. There are others that I use for the campaign as well. I have all of the Space 1889 books and they are excellent. But I have changed a bunch of the mechanics around for more streamlined play.
All of this got me pondering, what if I could design a campaign using the forum format so that any of you could take part in it, too? I could probably get all of my friends to participate as well, but I don't know if they're down for writing. Have to check about that. I'll definitely run a real campaign with them side by side maybe doing something on here. But if I change the mechanics to a forum type of format, and make some good mechanics for that, I'll need help beforehand on what kind of campaign people here want to play and what kind of stories they want to write. I noticed when browsing here a lot of the topics seem to be about controlling a nation or some kind of state. I guess I'm not down for that for the Space 1889 setting - it is more something for an RPG-type of play (kind of how I see that Mutant topic, which is interesting!). There are lots of options for us. We could do a campaign in which all of you are characters within the same party, working together, sometimes infighting, which is basically how the real campaign plays out. Or each person could be an ether flyer with a whole crew of their own, navigating the ether and going on adventures, often with other ether flyers and their crews.
Guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it! No hard feelings if no one wants to play a campaign of this. Thanks again for letting me use those beautiful maps.
Here are two of my favorite Space 1889 links, but they give very little info compared to the books I have. I still like them for their graphics and summaries.
http://mateengreenway.com/steampunk/Space1889.htm
(lots of good info on ship designs and a steampunk timeline)
and
http://www.drpetrov.com/1889/space 1889.htm
(lots of good info on ALL of the planets, though I've never run a single campaign that even gets to Jupiter and its moons- takes too long and campaigns don't usually last long enough and there's tons to do on Venus, Mars, and Luna)
If you don't know what that is, you can google it, because it is really complicated to explain here in some amount of words. Ok, I'll try. So it is alternate history/industrial revolution science-fiction/Jules Verne-esque role-playing! In the 1850s, Thomas Edison invents an ether propeller (there is a British and German competitor as well, neither of which are as good as the ether propeller). With this, the industrialized world can travel to other planets within the solar system. sounds ridiculous. But any fan of Jules Verne would love to read up on this pen and paper RPG. In uni we would play it, and I loved to ref those games.
All scientific knowledge that is real in our world is turned upside down. For example, Venus is inhabited by Lizardfolk and dinosaurs. Mars has an advanced civilization in decline. And naturally, colonising other worlds becomes part of the Age of Imperialism. For example there are German colonies all over Venus and the British are teaching Martians how to speak English. It gets even crazier from there.
The ether is this theory that a substance flows through space and connects everything with ether wakes. So, you get a ship up to 20,000 feet in the sky, and propel it with the ether propeller, and it will travel through the ether safely to other worlds. There is ether turbulence, though, and other obstacles. How to get up to 20,000 feet? Well originally, it was near impossible, but once the first Edison expedition returned from Mars, they had discovered a plant on Mars called "liftwood", which could be attached to dirigibles and flyers and galleons and thus allow them to float and fly. Flight was discovered with this. Then these industrialized powers developed air forces. These would include sky galleons of Mars, ether flyers that could go from planet to planet, and then just planes or airships that would be used on Earth or other planets to fight in good old-fashioned late 19th century wars.
I've led my players through lots of weird and strange adventures with this Rp system. We are starting a new campaign in real life here, but I was asking for maps and posting this to let you all know why I'm using those maps. There are others that I use for the campaign as well. I have all of the Space 1889 books and they are excellent. But I have changed a bunch of the mechanics around for more streamlined play.
All of this got me pondering, what if I could design a campaign using the forum format so that any of you could take part in it, too? I could probably get all of my friends to participate as well, but I don't know if they're down for writing. Have to check about that. I'll definitely run a real campaign with them side by side maybe doing something on here. But if I change the mechanics to a forum type of format, and make some good mechanics for that, I'll need help beforehand on what kind of campaign people here want to play and what kind of stories they want to write. I noticed when browsing here a lot of the topics seem to be about controlling a nation or some kind of state. I guess I'm not down for that for the Space 1889 setting - it is more something for an RPG-type of play (kind of how I see that Mutant topic, which is interesting!). There are lots of options for us. We could do a campaign in which all of you are characters within the same party, working together, sometimes infighting, which is basically how the real campaign plays out. Or each person could be an ether flyer with a whole crew of their own, navigating the ether and going on adventures, often with other ether flyers and their crews.
Guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it! No hard feelings if no one wants to play a campaign of this. Thanks again for letting me use those beautiful maps.
Here are two of my favorite Space 1889 links, but they give very little info compared to the books I have. I still like them for their graphics and summaries.
http://mateengreenway.com/steampunk/Space1889.htm
(lots of good info on ship designs and a steampunk timeline)
and
http://www.drpetrov.com/1889/space 1889.htm
(lots of good info on ALL of the planets, though I've never run a single campaign that even gets to Jupiter and its moons- takes too long and campaigns don't usually last long enough and there's tons to do on Venus, Mars, and Luna)
Starlife
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For those of you unfamiliar with Victorian Era steampunk, here is a small part of a write-up that I usually give players for the real-life campaign (that takes place around my kitchen table), but I edited some stuff in here so that it could make more sense in a forum setting (for example, I took out a lot of the dice rolling for actions concepts, which are part of the traditional Space 1889 rules).
Any feedback would be much appreciated! And please point out typos to me, because I want it to be as clean as possible.
Still haven't decided how to completely convert these concepts into a forum game - but feedback on the concepts themselves would be nice. This isn't all of them, but just some of them for now. Right now I am thinking that everyone could have an ether flyer and a crew, or just a group of characters, and that will be supported by a "home country" which would include Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, the U.S., or Japan. When I play this in real-life, everyone is usually a character, but some chars get special additions. For example, an adventurer character can sometimes have a reporter assistant, and wealthy gentlemen can have servants. So maybe everyone can control a group of characters, something exciting for the world of Space 1889 because usually everyone gets only 1 character. If there is a whole group, though, then that will mean there will be many types of specialists in a group and groups can then work together. OR everyone could be 1 character, just like how we play it on pen and paper..... But to change things up I like the idea of having everyone as a group. suggestions welcome...!
Still to come if there are people interested: crew/character concepts, known worlds (planet summaries/detailed info, including creatures on those planets), and wealth.
oh, EDIT: and also, what is fun is that during these campaigns, characters can often incite revolutions or even wars between countries.
Any feedback would be much appreciated! And please point out typos to me, because I want it to be as clean as possible.
Still haven't decided how to completely convert these concepts into a forum game - but feedback on the concepts themselves would be nice. This isn't all of them, but just some of them for now. Right now I am thinking that everyone could have an ether flyer and a crew, or just a group of characters, and that will be supported by a "home country" which would include Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, the U.S., or Japan. When I play this in real-life, everyone is usually a character, but some chars get special additions. For example, an adventurer character can sometimes have a reporter assistant, and wealthy gentlemen can have servants. So maybe everyone can control a group of characters, something exciting for the world of Space 1889 because usually everyone gets only 1 character. If there is a whole group, though, then that will mean there will be many types of specialists in a group and groups can then work together. OR everyone could be 1 character, just like how we play it on pen and paper..... But to change things up I like the idea of having everyone as a group. suggestions welcome...!
Still to come if there are people interested: crew/character concepts, known worlds (planet summaries/detailed info, including creatures on those planets), and wealth.
oh, EDIT: and also, what is fun is that during these campaigns, characters can often incite revolutions or even wars between countries.
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SKILORD
Insurgent
I like the idea, it looks interesting. But what do you do about atmosphere contents? Is there just air everywhere?
Sorry, I might not have read enought Verne.
Sorry, I might not have read enought Verne.
Starlife
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Great question! Science in Space 1889 is absolutely absurd. It makes no sense to modern science. WITH that said, yes, air is everywhere and Venus, Mars, and Mercury are all breathable and habitable (Mercury is a bit weird, but I'll cover that in another post). Moons of Jupiter are, as well, but we probably won't get to those. So to get along with this type of campaign, people really have to abandon any practical science. Mars is covered in water canals and declining civilizations, Venus has dinosaurs, and other absurd things are reality. Its classical Victorian sci-fi. Here's a bit more philosophical pseudoscience from my write-up:
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Here's some more from my write-up! Any suggestions and help would be really appreciated! Thanks SKILORD for your comments...
These write-up areas are not quite finished, but here is a taste of it. Gameplay Concepts and then I'll go ahead and post what I have written for Mars so far. Mars is by far the most important planet outside of Earth, so that's why there is so much info for it.
I've finally made some decisions and if i ever do this, I would have each player be a group of characters or an expedition from their nation! Could turn into a very interesting campaign indeed.
gameplay concepts
and mars
p.s. - mars still needs me to add what kinds of creatures and transportation will be available there.
These write-up areas are not quite finished, but here is a taste of it. Gameplay Concepts and then I'll go ahead and post what I have written for Mars so far. Mars is by far the most important planet outside of Earth, so that's why there is so much info for it.
I've finally made some decisions and if i ever do this, I would have each player be a group of characters or an expedition from their nation! Could turn into a very interesting campaign indeed.
gameplay concepts
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and mars
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p.s. - mars still needs me to add what kinds of creatures and transportation will be available there.
Northen Wolf
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Give people some time, I myself just glanced this post yesterday with thoughts of reading it more throughly today.
Anonymoose
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Some people only come through here every few days, and perhaps read this thread even less often. Patience is fun.
Starlife
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Thanks for the words, everyone. Sorry to appear to lack patience. 
I'll put some more stuff up on it soon. Still have to convert some rules from my pen-and-paper version, which is customized (since the "real" version is kind of terrible). I also want to touch-up my writing for Venus and Mercury. I have all kinds of new adventures in this setting I want to try out for people if they are into this sort of thing.
I'll put some more stuff up on it soon. Still have to convert some rules from my pen-and-paper version, which is customized (since the "real" version is kind of terrible). I also want to touch-up my writing for Venus and Mercury. I have all kinds of new adventures in this setting I want to try out for people if they are into this sort of thing.
Abaddon
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Also, i'm not sure how many people check this thread. Often creating your own individual thread will get more responses and onlookers.
An avatar and a signature would also help
An avatar and a signature would also help
SKILORD
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An avatar and a signature would also help
You're so shallow, Abaddon.
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Looking back over Starlife's stuff, I really like that the Belgians are included. I have this image of an interplanetary heart of darkness, hotel rwanda situation.
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