TerraNES: The Civil Experiment

From: Empire of Japan
To: small pathetic Chinese state

We didnt threaten them. If we threaten them, then our army would have been burning half shanghai. We just tell them what is wise to do. And we dont care about your pathetic state.

To: Japan
We did not claim that you were threatening them; we were simply advising you not to.
And take care not to threaten us either. Sometimes what is silent is also the most dangerous.

TO: Trezbond
FROM: Highking of War, Fire Lord of the Katanic Empire

The surrender of your lands into the empire and the rank of your king as a highprince therein are accepted.

Eltain said:

The people of the Republic of Ctesiphod stand together not as Cytrians, nor Apulians nor Greeks; instead we stand hand-in-hand, as brothers, as peers, for the greater good. We stood and linked our arms and outted your ancestors from the Vallarvale and Valyria, for the greater good.

We took no offense to your different religion, until it turned men to monsters, people to cattle, killing and mutilating on a whim. Who stood as our brothers then? The Zirilwine, the Greeks, the Sardicans.

We will not send delegates to this conference based on profit and warmongering, and we urge our neighbors to do the same.

Who stands as our brothers now, the voice of sanity, and who would instead join hand with these murderers, these Faithful?

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You filthy, lying, horrible, sons of whores and lackwits, people who go back on their word as easily as they spit, refuse of the Western Seas. It has been seen that communication with you is foolhardy and untrustworthy, but I will remind you this;

Who starved the Valyrian army by not paying like they said they would? The Ctyrians.

Who gave the rebels weapons when they attacked us? The Ctyrians.

Who let the Red Faith rise and then blamed us for it? The Ctyrians

Who killed a hundred and twenty thousand men, women, children, and elderly as a dying nation fled north? The Ctyrians.

Who declared war on Valyria and saw to the destruction and pillaging of what we left behind when we left? The Ctyrians.

Who fought and killed the Longbeards, struck at the Sarks that still lived and dwelt in our ancient homeland, and who profited from wars fought to the south? Once more, the Ctyrians!

Whose word is less than waste matter, worth only as much disdain and hatred you have in your body? The Ctyrians!

Nations of the world, know this and this only about the Ctyrians! They are a pack of liars and cheats, who strive to destroy you through false promises and hope, and they will plant the dagger in your backs the moment that they can.

You accuse us of monstrosity and bloodshed, of horrible crimes when you murdered a hundred and twenty thousand fleeing people who left a dying nation in smoke and ash! You accuse us of hatred and war, when we had planned and communicated with you are intentions for a peaceful alliance! You, who offered to buy Nova Sarkov from us to have a port in Iberia and give us the money so that we could stop the attacks instigated on us by the Zirilites and the Samnites and the Apulians, and then did not pay! What you did led to the creation of the Red Faith, what you did led to the deaths of thousands of people, thousands of innocent lives and the lives of so many! You, ARE, NOTHING! You blame us for so much, but when you had us starving in the marches and we were forced to eat flesh of the fallen, you accuse us of being weak, and of being bloodthirsty monsters who devoured and farmed PEOPLE???

Let me remind you thusly; the Red Faith was a minority faction, making up less than 5% of our nation, before they were destroyed. We were not monsters... but you made us become monsters. You will make everyone become monsters and act high and mighty and tell them to bend the knee before you.

Good people have died in the past. I do not intend to let more die due to Ctyrian wars and Ctyrian power gaming.

Our invitation is retracted.

Now, what else do you have to say to us? What do you what to defend yourself with at this point, you pathetic bunch of lackwits?

Terrance888 said:

Mediolaun heartily agrees. The only good Faithful are dead Faithful.

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OOC: Is this IC or OOC?

To: Japan
We did not claim that you were threatening them; we were simply advising you not to.
And take care not to threaten us either. Sometimes what is silent is also the most dangerous.

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Also stay out of Korea.

Tomorrow, I will begin the conference. Would the people that are attending the conference please drop me a message in my box if they have an AIM or something of the sort so that way we can talk more easily instead of communicating via PM?

OOC: Read your speech; they're Cytrians.
Mind, the Sarkish Confederacy has more beef with Zirilia than Cytria (after all, your people fought their way through Cytria, while theirs fought their way through Zirilia)

Luckymoose said:

I will take the lands adjacent to the Bosporus Straight. Makedonia will become a vassal in the empire with full autonomy under the conditions that other kingdoms have been absorbed. Your monarch is below the Highking. Your nation is part of the empire and pays tribute. Your armies are mine to command. When I do not request them you may use your armies to conquer neighbors that are not under the empire.

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that.. is just insulting.
You are not in a position to make demands like that to us. You do have the advantage, and there is a significant chance that if this war continues, we will lose. but it is far from zero, and even if you do win, we will bleed you dry in the process. the effort you will need just to take Byzantinon will insure this.
But further conflict will not benefit ether of us. We are willing to join you, provided you negotiate with respect for what we have manged, and what it will cost you should it fail.

Our Counter terms are:
you get everything on the east side of the straights, and shared control of Byzantinon.
Full local autonomy, no vassalage. Full alliance between us, with us being the "lesser among Equals".
Marrige of my Daughter to you or your heir. a child born from this union shall become the eventual heir to both our kingdoms, uniting them upon his claiming of our thrones.
Said Heir is to be raised at your palace, but you must allow us to send a tutor to teach him of our history and ways. so he dose not grow up in ignorance of his heritage.
Our armies remain independent of your command as allies to your nation. In any offensive or defensive war, we will fully come to your aid, and should we be attacked, you will do like wise. you are not bound to to come to our aid in an offensive war, but are welcome to do so.
1EP in tribute, and at least 2 additional EP toward a mutually beneficial cause.

OOC: I am perfectly fine with shifting control peacefully over to your nation. (and me having to chose another nation). provided of course, I can work it in an IC manner. they still have their pride, and know they can inflict great harm to you before they will fall. Give them a way out with dignity and respect, and they will take it.
Remember, I play for fun and interesting outcomes, not to win.

Terrance it needs to be known that Trebezond will be joining the empire directly. My color becomes their color.

TO: Mountain King of Makedonia
FROM: Highking of War, Fire Lord of the Katanic Empire

No. You will bow before me or I will break your legs and force you.

OOC: lucky, he IS willing to bow to you. even kowtow to you. but With his weapons, not unarmed and naked. Negotiate, and you will get everything on a platter. I can no just roll over IC wise with the what you demanded. and that Means my ceasing to play has makadonian and full integration of them into your nation.

OOC: My terms were final. If you had read them you would know that. The Highking of War does not negotiate. He has offered the Makedonians a place within the empire and safety. If they fail to accept the walls will be torn down and every woman and child will be raped and murdered. The men will be enslaved, etc.

OOC: your doing so with the terms, if I sign, you do so. if I dont, a lot on both sides die, mostly on yours, die and you still do so.. mash up new terms, and give them a way out with their respect intact, and they will sign them. ANY terms. I AM TRYING TO SURRENDER TO YOU! I just need the means to do so in an IC manner. which means they need to keep their respect/pride intact. and no, you terms never said anything about them being final. or even hinted that they were. you simple stated a few random unlinked facts and drew a map. which I replayed with a compromise that heavily favored you, and would wind up with them totally under your control by the end of this turn.

TerrisH gets +1 Internetz.

Trezbond is will join the fight to capture Byzantinon, and will rule as a High prince with that as their capital, and their lands under suzertainly (your color, I guess) of katan. I will make intraborders for various Highprincedoms so far in the next update.

Luckymoose said:

TO: Mountain King of Makedonia
FROM: Highking of War, Fire Lord of the Katanic Empire

Surrender unto me all that is mine and your people shall no longer have need nor want. The walled city stands between us, but the stones will shatter beneath my might. Become a highprince in the empire, maintain your autonomy and together we shall conquer the known world. Separated, you shall fall before my axe lords. These terms are final. My words are indestructible, your walls are not.

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@Terrish: I never tell a lie. I do not negotiate. I offered you life, you chose death.

Terris:

Luckymoose said:

@Terrish: I never tell a lie. I do not negotiate. I offered you life, you chose death.

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no, I tried to chose life, and you ignored me.
hmm..

One last chance. Full acceptance of your original terms.. with one addition
provided your high king, or his heir, marries the Macedonian kings daughter. we retain some pride and dignity knowing that our blood will become part of yours. (could even be a second-wife situation, with the children having no chance to become heirs, unless the first branch completely dies.)

Luckymoose is like Chrisos like that.

@TerrisH:

The Rumen Council sat quietly as the messenger berated them, swearing at them and cursing them for actions of their ancestors. Finally the Vox Populi, Rumen of Ctesiphod, stood to the lectern and spoke.

"Ahh, how true the old porverbs hold to this day, my friend. Rudeness is indeed the weak man's imitation of strength."

Chuckles from the gathered Rumen.

"Strength of character, strength of will, strength of the mind. Your words cut us so deeply, and we are so hurt that we cannot attend your war-conference.

Who conquered the disunited Samnites, after no provocation, I ask, messenger?

Who sacked Genoa? Who burned the bodies, and left them out to rot, rather than give them proper passage to the world beyond?

Who sacked every Sarkish city and salted, burned and raped Valyria, Cytria and the Vallarvale? Who attacked the Cytrians, causing them to defend their valley?

Who murdered thousands of innocent Zirilwine and Samnites merely for having their own views?

Our ancestors' desire for an alliance was very real, until your ancestors destroyed an entire people, ate their own children and let loose upon the world an unspeakable evil.

Let us remind you. The only good Faithful is a dead Faithful. Any actions the Republic takes south of the Vale Mountains (Alps) are no concern of yours. Go back to your huts."

With that, the messenger was escorted from the Council meeting, and the Rumen went back to their discussions of the civilized Republic.

TO: Mountain King of Makedonia
FROM: Highking of War, Fire Lord of the Katanic Empire

I will take your mountain whore into my harem. Peace on our terms, as the gods intended. Makedonia becomes part of the empire, the great walled city becomes property of the Highking and the gateway to Greece opens before us.